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Re: 1911 census - stumped
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Robert was in Stirling in 1901 - a single boarder. He had middle name Edmund according to his baptism in Leith.

If he was in the Poorhouse in 1911, might he have been listed under initials RB only?

Your right Josey,

"under" 'Robert's Bed'   ??? ;D

Anyway...

I found (age is out on this one by 10 yrs but is Edinburgh)

BLACK ROBERT E
1911
42
697/ 7/ 18
Penicuik, Midlothian

Also;

Nearest I could find if there was an error with his name maybe if he had speech problems or someone else giving info. may have got it wrong, all sorts of reasons for mis-transcriptions.

Using his age as a guide;

BAIRD
ROBERT
1911
54
485/A 6/ 17
Larbert (Stirling)

BAKER
ROBERT
1911
51
652/2 2/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland (Lanark)

Annie


South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: 1911 census - stumped
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 13:32 GMT (UK) »
BLACK ROBERT E
1911
42
697/ 7/ 18
Penicuik, Midlothian

This one can be ruled out as he's in Edinburgh 1901

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1911 census - stumped
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 13:33 GMT (UK) »
OK, thanks for looking that up.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: 1911 census - stumped
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 13:49 GMT (UK) »
BAIRD ROBERT
1911
54
485/A 6/ 17
Larbert (Stirling)

Can be ruled out as he's in Stirling 1901

BAIRD ROBERT
1901
44
485/A 5/ 41
Larbert, Stirling

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: 1911 census - stumped
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 14:00 GMT (UK) »
BAKER
ROBERT
1911
51
652/2 2/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland (Lanark)

Can also be ruled out as he's in the same place 1901

BAKER ROBERT
1901
41
652/2 2/ 13
Coatbridge or Old Monkland

Bach to the drawing board  ???

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland died in 1914 in Edinburgh. Address at death Craiglockhart Poorhouse. Residence Edinburgh Grassmarket.

RD on death is Colinton & age would have been 56 i.e. c 53 (ish) in 1911

I wonder why he ended up in Edinburgh from Stirling?

Did any of his family live in Edinburgh?

Had he been working there?

Was he a Widower?

Who was his wife, where/when did she die?

What was cause of death & who was the informant?


Josey,

My geography of Edinburgh isn't great with RD's.

I'm now doing a search in Midlothian with no surname & only initial 'R', this one has no surname on the index i.e. could this be a possible?

----- ROBERT
1911
50
685/5 31/ 8
Newington, Midlothian

Thinking if he'd been living/working in Edinburgh as a 'Boarder' the person who filled out the census form may not have known his surname or age....clutching straws now  ???

Thinking that's quite a wee distance from Colinton to Newington?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1911 census - stumped
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 17:23 GMT (UK) »

Bach to the drawing board  ???
;D ;D ;D You're on form today Annie.

Thinking that's quite a wee distance from Colinton to Newington?
Not a huge distance, they are both south of the centre. Would be great to see original census sheet of Robert X to see his occupation.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 17:31 GMT (UK) »
No harm/offence meant but the people south of the border would pronounce 'bach' as 'back'  :D

Yep, the occupation is the main thing now, such a pity we can't get transcriptions for 1911  :(

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 17:55 GMT (UK) »
----- ROBERT
1911
50
685/5 31/ 8
Newington, Midlothian
This has been discounted...
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON