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Robert Hoff Bryan, born 1810, Clock and Watchmaker.
« on: Monday 13 March 17 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello There,

The above person was one of my three times great granddad's brother in - law's. He was born in 1810, in Alford Lincolnshire, probably to a John Bryan, and an Elizabeth, (nee Hoff).
Robert married Elizabeth Hunter, in Barrow, Lincolnshire in October 1835.

Anyway, I have recently been trying to find out more information about his Clock making, and where he was based at certain times. I know that he was in Lincoln, by the time of the 1841 Census.
But apparently, before this he was at: "The Square, Retford". This is according to the book: "Lincolnshire Clockmakers", that somebody passed information onto me.

Does anyone please know of any Watch and Clockmakers, who were at this address in Retford, between the years 1835 - 1841?/ Know if Robert is in any directories from this period please?

I can't seem to find him. Or were no Trade Directories published for Retford for the above years?

Any information at all would be gratefully accepted.

Thank you very much. :) ;)
 

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AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Robert Hoff Bryan, born 1810, Clock and Watchmaker.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 12:58 GMT (UK) »
Roberts abode when marrying was East Hartford.
( Source Marriage Record on FreeREG)
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Re: Robert Hoff Bryan, born 1810, Clock and Watchmaker.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Roberts abode when marrying was East Hartford.
( Source Marriage Record on FreeREG)

Thank you for this. So should this read: "East Retford" rather than Hartford then?
I think that is where "The Square" in Retford is.

Cheers. :) ;)

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Re: Robert Hoff Bryan, born 1810, Clock and Watchmaker.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 16:30 GMT (UK) »
County   Lincolnshire
Place-   Barrow upon Humber
Church name   Holy Trinity
Register entry number   212
Marriage date   20 Oct 1835
Groom forename   Robert Hoff
Groom surname   BRYAN
Groom condition   Bachelor
Groom abode   East Hartford
Bride forename   Elisabeth
Bride surname   HUNTER
Bride condition   Spinster
Bride abode   Barrow
Bride parish   Holy Trinity
Witness   John YOUNG
Witness   E HUNTER
Register note   Also mentioned Margaret HUNTER

Retford does have The Square, it is where the market takes place. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/the+square+retford/@53.3229825,-0.944841,17z/data=!3m1!4b1
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Robert Hoff Bryan, born 1810, Clock and Watchmaker.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 19:48 GMT (UK) »
County   Lincolnshire
Place-   Barrow upon Humber
Church name   Holy Trinity
Register entry number   212
Marriage date   20 Oct 1835
Groom forename   Robert Hoff
Groom surname   BRYAN
Groom condition   Bachelor
Groom abode   East Hartford
Bride forename   Elisabeth
Bride surname   HUNTER
Bride condition   Spinster
Bride abode   Barrow
Bride parish   Holy Trinity
Witness   John YOUNG
Witness   E HUNTER
Register note   Also mentioned Margaret HUNTER

Retford does have The Square, it is where the market takes place. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/the+square+retford/@53.3229825,-0.944841,17z/data=!3m1!4b1
Thank you for this.  :)It is interesting that Robert was working in Retford when he got married. One of Elizabeth's Brothers, Edward Wilson Hunter, married a Harriet Clark in East Retford a year later in 1836. It surprises me how far people seem to have travelled, before the Railways came. Another of my ancestors siblings was born in Canwick near Lincoln. He married down near Bognor Regis, in the early part of the 19th Century. :)

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Re: Robert Hoff Bryan, born 1810, Clock and Watchmaker.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 10:58 GMT (UK) »
"It is interesting that Robert was working in Retford when he got married."

Not sure where this information comes from, the Grooms abode is East HARTFORD as has already been pointed out by Trish. East Hartford in Northumberland and East Retford in Nottinghamshire are 143 miles apart.
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Robert Hoff Bryan, born 1810, Clock and Watchmaker.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for clarifying that larkspur :)
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Re: Robert Hoff Bryan, born 1810, Clock and Watchmaker.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 12:18 GMT (UK) »
"It is interesting that Robert was working in Retford when he got married."

Not sure where this information comes from, the Grooms abode is East HARTFORD as has already been pointed out by Trish. East Hartford in Northumberland and East Retford in Nottinghamshire are 143 miles apart.
This comes from: "The Stamford Mercury" dated Friday 23 October 1835. I found it on The British Newspaper Archive at the Library yesterday, regarding the Marriage:
"On the 19th inst.., at Barrow, (by the Rev. G. G. Egremont, Vicar) Mr. Robt. Hoff Bryan, Watchmaker, of East Retford, to Elizabeth, Youngest daughter of Mr. John Hunter, a respectable farmer, of the former place."
So the reference to East Hartford was likely to have been a transcription error.