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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:15 GMT (UK) »
Part 2!

In the Orr Pedigree (most easily accessed through this version:
Ulster Pedigrees by Ray A. Jones 1977 Lib. of Congress Catalog Card No:77-82468)
was drawn up by Gawin Orr of Castlereagh (1756-1830).

He was an elder in Moneyrea Church, a farmer and something of a financial wizard besides being a genealogist. 

He traces families in the area back to James Orr and Janet McClement who came to Ballyblack in the early years of the 17th century.

If you can go back to the generation alive in 1830 and find them in the Pedigree you can go back to the Plantation.


Orr
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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:29 GMT (UK) »
3rd time lucky?

The first McCormick mentioned is Samuel (no dates prob. c. 1700)

Margaret Orr m. Samuel McCormick
their children:

  • Henington McCormick of Dundonald m. Agnes (Nancy) Allen
    Margaret McCormick m. Matthew Carruthers of Ballyhanwood
    Elizabeth McCormick m. Wm. Summerside
    Jane McCormick m. John Kearns of CherryValley (prob. Comber)
    Lilly McCormick m. Robert Finlay of "nr. Saintfield"
 

There are children listed for Marg. Eliz. & Jane

Henington McCormick and Agnes (Nancy) Allen
had 3 children:

  • Elizabeth McCormick m. John McClure of Ballyrickart
    Isabella McCormick m. James Clark of Newtownards
    James McCormick (of Mountpottinger) m. Susanna Anderson

There are children listed for Isabella only

James McCormick & Susanna Anderson had 7 children:

  • Hugh McCormick
    Richard McCormick
    Agnes McCormick
    Sarah McCormick
    James McCormick Jnr.
    Gawin McCormick
    John McCormick

If you think these are yr. ancestors I can give you details of previous generations.

SG
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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:35 GMT (UK) »
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Sorry Part two doesn't read properly - it should have been:

In the Orr Pedigree (most easily accessed through this version:
Ulster Pedigrees by Ray A. Jones 1977 Lib. of Congress Catalog Card No:77-82468)
one McCormick family from Dundonald is mentioned.
The Pedigree was drawn up by Gawin Orr of Castlereagh (1756-1830).

I do not know what happened to the Bullet points in the 3rd message - the buttons don't deliver what they promise!

SG
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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 08 November 07 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
Afraid I can't help you with your graveyard query, but have listed a few Allens below, that may work in for you.
I. Marriage.
William Quinn to Eleanor Jane Allen, married in Tullynakill Church of Ireland, Co Down, on the 23 Aug 1849.
Groom, full age, a widower, a potter ??, resided Whitehasen ??(Whitehaven ?).
Father, Marty ?? Quinn, a farmer.
Bride, full age, a spinster, resided Tullynakill.
Father, John Allen, a farmer.
Witnesses, William F. Lindsay and James Parks ??.
Reference in the Register of Marriage,  1849, Newtownards, volume 9, page 53.
2. Marriage.
William Shaw Allen to Jane Quinn, married in the Registrar's Office, Newtownards, on the 4 June 1870.
Groom, age 23, a bachelor, a labourer, resided Ballyoran, Parish of Dundonald.
Father, James Allen, a labourer.
Bride, age 22, a spinster, resided Drumhirk, Parish of Kilmood.
Father, John Quinn, a farmer.
Witnesses,  John Wightman and Mary Quinn.
Reference in the Register of Marriage,  1870, Newtownards, volume 6, page 1035.
3. Marriage / 1 birth.
Samuel Allen to Isabella Dickson, married in Gilnahirk Presbyterian Ch., on the 16 July 1889.
Groom, full age, a widower, a labourer, resided Tullyhubbert.
Father, William Allen, a farmer.
Bride, age 20, a spinster, resided Ballykeel.
Father, David Dickson, a farmer.
Witnesses,  Thomas James Allen and Sarah Black.
Film reference at the PRONI in Belfast,    MIC / 1P / 432, for Gilnahirk Presb., ch.
            3A.  Child of this marriage.
             David Allen, born 25 Oct 1894, Monlough, Co Down.
                                 Christened on the 6 Jan 1895, 1st Presb., Ch., Ballygowan.
4. Marriage / 2 births.
Thomas Quinn to Eliza Allen, married in Killinchy Presb., Ch., on the 15 May 1852.
Groom, full age, a bachelor, a servant, resided Ringneil.
Father, James Quinn, a labourer.
Bride, full age, a spinster, resided Ringneil.
Father, William Allen, a labourer.
Witnesses,  Alexander Farmer and Rosanne Allen.
Film reference at the PRONI in Belfast,  MIC / 1P / 404, for Killinchy Presb., ch.
              4A. 2 Children to this marriage.
                   No 1.  Thomas Quinn, born 10 0ct 1867, Ballygraffin, Kilmood.
                    Reference in the Register of Births,
                    1867, Newtownards, volume 16, Page 873.
                    No 2.  Robert Quinn, born 1 June 1870, Ballygraffin, Kilmood.
                    Reference in the Register of Births, 
                    1870, Newtownards, volume 6, page 1003.
 
Don't know of a connection to my families.

Regards,
Dixie















Antrim.  Campbell, Carson,Dickson, Gilmore, Creaney
Down.    Dickson, Fairley, Irvine, McCune, Carlisle,    
               Wilson, Quinn

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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 08 November 07 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks DixieDee for the Allen information. I don't see any connection to mine. The earliest I have is a Henry Allen born about 1800 to 1820 maybe of Comber parish in County Down.
Burns, McCormick, Hunter, and Allen in Ulster.
Buchan in Perth
Macaulay in South Uist, Invernesshire

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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 08 November 07 19:55 GMT (UK) »
EnlerG thanks for all the McCormick information. The earlist McCormick I have is James a weaver probably born about 1800 to 1820. This could be a grandson of the Samuel you mention but there is no way of telling. My James had a son Thomas born about 1847. When this Thomas married in 1868 he was of Ballyrainey, Dundonald parish. Unfortunately that is all I have.
Burns, McCormick, Hunter, and Allen in Ulster.
Buchan in Perth
Macaulay in South Uist, Invernesshire

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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 08 November 07 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I've just noticed that you want a look up in Vol. 5 of Gravestone inscriptions.

I have it to hand.  In Comber Graveyard (C of I) there are two McCormick burials recorded unfortunately no townlands are mentioned:

McCORMICK
[Probably of 1778.] Here lyeth the body of John McCormick, son to Alexander McCorkick who desesed the 7 of March '78 he being of age 12 years.

McCORMICK
[White marble.] In memory of Thomas McCormick who died 23rd Novr. 1863 aged 55 years. Also his son Thomas who died 24th May 1878 aged 19 years. Also his wife Margaret who died 24th Octr. 1879 aged 70 years.

You know that Ballyrainey is on the Dundonald side of Comber but much closer to Comber than Dundonald - but people seemed to manage to ensure that burials took place in the family ground no matter how far that was! 

My on my mother's side there are McCormicks from near Killinchy.  After 1845 they are buried in the Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Graveyard before that in Killinchy Parish Church - but I do not think that there are gravestones there. 

There is another family who have graves in Tullynakill (between Killinchy & Comber). 

We think that these families cross Strangford from the Ards Peninsula in the late 18th century.  There are burials in graveyards on the peninsula - but I am not certain where.

I will keep a look out for the McCormicks of Ballyrainey.

Hope some of this is of interest

SG
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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 08 November 07 23:06 GMT (UK) »
It is of interest-thanks. But...It is so frustrating as I can never get any farther back in Ireland. 
Burns, McCormick, Hunter, and Allen in Ulster.
Buchan in Perth
Macaulay in South Uist, Invernesshire

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Re: Where were they buried?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 14:29 BST (UK) »
Hi ,
I noticed you have some relatives of mine on your list, the ones living in Tullyhubbert. I know Samuel Conkey was buried in Moneyreagh  presbyterian he was married to Mary Allen, her father was William Allen. I know there is a lot of Allens buried here,
Hope this helps.

Theresa
Belfast/ Kilkeel/ Comber - Conkey,Mcloughlin,Curlett, Edgar, Orr, Annett.
 Borris carlow,kilkenny - Deegan, Bolger,Rudkins