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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #90 on: Monday 15 May 17 09:29 BST (UK) »
I have confirmed info for Adam Hutton and his lineage in South Africa. The main lineage is
Adam Hutton 1823-1893, Eliza Ann Freshwater who he divorced.
John Hutton 1860-1920, Edith Annie Smith.
John Arthur 1897-1978, Myrtle Irene Wood.

Although I have the 2 final lineages the folk are still living so can not be posted here.

Maybe of help to any other Huttons rellies who may join Rootschat.

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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #91 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 10:56 BST (UK) »
I was just looking through Wavendon burials and noticed a Elizabeth Hutton wife of John
aged 32 dying 1824. Interesting as said they were of Aspley.

Looking a bit further on John husband of Elizabeth died aged 45 in 1831.

This would make John born 1786 and Elizabeth 1792. Possibly John and Elizabeth Cripps ?.
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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #92 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 13:19 BST (UK) »
Very interesting.  I think you may have found them Sandy.
We don't have exact birth dates for Adam and Arthur, youngest children of John Hutton oo Elizabeth Cripps.  Estimates from Census records puts Adam at about 1825 and Arthur at about 1827.  However Adam Hutton's Death Notice in South Africa in 1893 states he is 70 and Arthur's in Australia in 1898  states he is 75.   These dates 1823, and possible 1824 are a better estimate and fit with the above couple.
I always thought it possible that Elizabeth died at or soon after the birth of her last child Arthur.  Which is why the children are all found living with their Aunts Susannah and Mary, daughters of Michael Hutton, in the 1841 Census.
John son of Michael Hutton oo Elizabeth was baptised in Wavendon in 1788.

Well done Sandy!

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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #93 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 16:10 BST (UK) »
HI Sue.

I think we have Frederick born 1819, and  Henry 1820, Caroline 1821, and Adam 1823
but what about Arthur. The death date for Elizabeth would be earlier ? Of course folk
weren't so particular about ages in the time period so maybe Arthur was 1824 ?

I don't want to say I am right as the baptisms for them all in Aspley was in 1826.
Also the 1841 census has different ages too. The fact both parents could have been
dead by 1841 is a possibility.

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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #94 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 16:35 BST (UK) »
For what it's worth I reckon you've found them Sandy.

If this isn't the same couple then it'd mean there's yet another John and Elizabeth Hutton of a similar age in the same area. It would also mean that this couple appear without trace (unless someone can find a marriage for them) and the parents of Adam and his siblings have still gone missing without trace; that seems unlikely.


I had another quick look for Elizabeth Cripps in Cranfield but there's no obvious baptism record at all in the BFHS surname index. There's a few Cripps couples in Cranfield but none seem likely parents of Elizabeth but it's not a given that she was actually born/raised in Cranfield, and could have just been living there at the time of her marriage.

Cripps couples in Cranfield:

Richard Purratt? Cripps & Sarah Chapman
Married: 1797 Bletsoe; Richard of Cranfield; (lic)
Richard baptised 1777 Cranfield to Edward and Eleanor
Richard recorded as a yeoman/farmer in baptism records

William Cripps & Mary White
Married: 1800 Cranfield, both minors; (lic)
William recorded as a yeoman/farmer baptism records

Edward Cripps & Eleanor Parks
Married: 1774 Cranfield; (lic)
It looks as if Edward died by 1782 and Eleanor remarried to John Odell in 1785.


So going by the marriage and likely deaths dates for these, none are a good fit for Elizabeth's parents. It's not much use I know but it may help to rule some possible parents out.
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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #95 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 16:37 BST (UK) »
Both Adam and Arthurs' births calculated from their ages given at death (never that reliable!)  are about 1823.   So if Adam was born say late 1822/early 1823, Arthur could have been born early in 1824 up to when his mother died in the April.

The children were all baptised together later in 1826 in St Botolphs in Aspley Guise.  William Hutton, their Uncle, and his family,  seem to be the only one of Michael Hutton (the children's grandfather)'s family attending that church - I noticed that as I worked through the films of the church books.   William Hutton became the Church Clerk if I remember correctly.    I suspect the most of Williams siblings  attended St Mary's, Wavendon.

..........I can't wait to look at the Wavendon film.

Joseph Hutton, his second wife Sarah, his son John and Grandson Henry James Cooper  are all recorded in the St Botolphs church books. 

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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #96 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 16:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your input cuffie81.

I have just looked at the Electoral Registers but they don't start till 1832  :(

I am trawling the newspaper at the mo.

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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #97 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 16:40 BST (UK) »
Sue I have e-mailed you the Wavendon burials for Elizabeth and John.
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Re: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire LOOKUP request fro HUTTON
« Reply #98 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 16:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Cuffie81 - I would like to follow the Cripps line sometime.

A Mary Cripps is a witness at John Hutton and Elizabeth Cripps marriage  - I think you noted that before.

Sue

PS Got them Sandy.  Thanks very much!