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Re: Census records - please help me find Richard and Daniel Baines
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 19:33 BST (UK) »
Many thanks CaroleW but each site has drawn a blank.   Both Richard and Daniel are in America post 1906  but must be hiding under a stone yet to be overturned.    Much appreciate your help.

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Re: Census records - please help me find Richard and Daniel Baines
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 20:00 BST (UK) »
Previous thread for information purposes

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Re: Census records - please help me find Richard and Daniel Baines
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 20:24 BST (UK) »
Its not just Richard and Daniel Baines who entered New York.

Also on the 1891 Census you refer to was John C Baines.  John "Curran" Baines.

John Curran Baines    - Curran   Order
GRO Reference: 1884  D Quarter in West Derby  Volume 08B  Page 468

Daniel's birth is also registered with "Curran" as a middle name.

Daniel Curran Baines     
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in West Derby  Volume 08B  Page 461

Richard Baines   36 Sarah Baines   35
Mary Curran   70
Lawrence Baines   10 Richard Baines   8
John C Baines   6 Mary Baines   4

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Re: Census records - please help me find Richard and Daniel Baines
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 20:28 BST (UK) »
New York, State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1940 shows john Curran Baines - 30 August 1884 - Liverpool England - arrived New York 4 May 1905 on the St Louis - spouse Hannah - resides 6 Fulton Street  - occupation seaman -
Married Hannah born 10 July 1887 Liverpool England and now resides 12 - 7 th Street Long Island City new York.  Has no children.
Declared intention 14 December 1917 Southern District Court New York.
Served for 3 years on American Vessels.

Dated 8 October 1924

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Re: Census records - please help me find Richard and Daniel Baines
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 20:35 BST (UK) »
The wife of John was listed as Annie on New York Passenger List - born 1881 - arrived New York 5 October 1911 on the Majestic - going to Long island City - 112 - 7th Street - had been in the USA in 1909 - 1911.

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Re: Census records - please help me find Richard and Daniel Baines
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 20:43 BST (UK) »
Lawrence Baines - mothers maiden surname Curran      
GRO Reference: 1881  M Quarter in West Derby  Volume 08B  Page 509

Many entries on Liverpool Crew Lists.

New York, State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1940 - Declaration -  Lawrence Baines -
14 January 1881 - Liverpool England - arrived New York 25 December 1904 on the St Louis  - Declaration date 3 November 1909 - occupation Mariner -

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Re: Census records - please help me find Richard and Daniel Baines
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 21:25 BST (UK) »
There is a Richard Baines age 54 listed as a Greaser not as a Fireman who died on the Titanic 15 April 1912.
Born about 1858 so maybe not the one you are looking for.

Liverpool Crew Lists on ancestry track him for many years his last entry is 1900 for the ship Custodian
he is age 45 so I imagine that's when he went to USA

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Re: Census records - please help me find Richard and Daniel Baines
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 21:28 BST (UK) »
There is a Richard Baines age 54 listed as a Greaser not as a Fireman who died on the Titanic 15 April 1912.
Born about 1858 so maybe not the one you are looking for.

Liverpool Crew Lists on ancestry track him for many years his last entry is 1900 for the ship Custodian
he is age 45 so I imagine that's when he went to USA

Seems to have been mentioned on an earlier thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=764398.9

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