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Offline Freya Ellingsen

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Re: Chegwidden
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 30 March 17 06:16 BST (UK) »
To me it looks like John Walsh's writing
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Re: Chegwidden
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 30 March 17 06:20 BST (UK) »
Fran...a bit lost here and not unusual these days, but what looks like John WALSH's writing?

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Re: Chegwidden
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 30 March 17 06:21 BST (UK) »
It appears that the chn of John CURRAN were the witnesses. :)

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Re: Chegwidden
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 30 March 17 06:25 BST (UK) »
Would be good to see the whole certificate.  However, it seems to me that it's possible that the permission for Claude has been written by one person and that, although it says "Signed, John Walsh" that it is not his signature. I have official letters sent by some of my family in the late 1800s and early 1900s  where the letters have obviously been transcribed and the 'signatures' are written in by the person who has actually done the writing - somewhat similar to some of today's digital letter writing where the 'signature' is not physically hand-written by the sender.  The capital "W"s in the letter, both in the body of the letter  and in both signatures are quite distinctive.

Could the letter have been written by Margaret? Or even by Claude himself - the capital "C" is similar although the rest of the penmanship isn't quite  the same.

In my family's case the letters were written by someone else as the actual sender didn't want to show that he was illiterate. 

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Re: Chegwidden
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 30 March 17 06:27 BST (UK) »
Very good point Judith...we do need a clapping hands smiley ;D

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Re: Chegwidden
« Reply #32 on: Friday 31 March 17 07:38 BST (UK) »
The signature of Margaret on the marriage certificate contains the second  a after g.

The signature on the permission omits it.

Both her "signatures" show proficiency with a pen, while CHEGDWEENEN's  lacks it notably.

Needs reminding exactly where to sign after misplacing his first name.

Almost writes 3 d's in the middle of the surname.

The strange spelling with the  d in it occurs on some of the birth registrations. Perhaps he was the person registering them

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Re: Chegwidden
« Reply #33 on: Friday 31 March 17 08:31 BST (UK) »
I have the impression that, at least at the time of signing the marriage certificate, John CHEGWIDDEN was hardly literate - only enough to write his name with difficulty.  It looks also as though Margaret has had to add the 'a' into her name, before finishing it, in the marriage certificate.

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« Reply #34 on: Friday 31 March 17 09:04 BST (UK) »
These deaths appear to match the births which were to John CHEDWIGGEN and Margaret HENRY.  The deaths, using the surname WALSH, all showing parents as John, and Margaret HENRY.

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CHEGWEEDEN Richard Henry, b 1886 - died Richd Henry WALSH, 64, at Ballarat, 1951 #16174

CHEGDWEDDEN John Edward, b 1889 - death Edward John WALSH, 65, died at Mcl, 1954 #3316

CHEGDWEDDEN James, b 1896 - died James WALSH, 1975, 77, at Warrnambool, #11791
Birth year is slightly out.

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Re: Chegwidden
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 01 April 17 00:22 BST (UK) »
This marriage looks a possibility for the parents of John CHEGWIDDEN.
I do not see a birth for him however.

CHEGWIDDEN Richard Henry James
MORRISON  Margaret
Year 1854
Reg 2427


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