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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 27 April 17 21:23 BST (UK) »
The address in 1911 for John & Patrick is 3 Henry St. & John's birthplace listed as Co. Antrim-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001394195/
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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #19 on: Friday 28 April 17 10:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks aghadowey,
You are correct the house number is 3.  Its the number on form B. that's 33.
They have both given their place of birth as Co Antrim but there are often mistakes on the census.  I believe these, the two youngest of the family left Coleraine at a very young age and may not have any memories of Coleraine.  John and Patrick living together not far from other members of the family and both the correct age makes it likely they are the correct Maguires.
I believe they moved to Belfast sometime between Johns birth in 1886 and the eldest sister Susans wedding  to John Cameron in Belfast 1894 though I cannot find them on the 1901 census.
I cannot find either of the parents (Robert & Jane nee McDonnell) on the 1901 or 1911 census.  They may well be living with their other daughters or possibly have died before 1901.
Thanks again.

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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #20 on: Friday 28 April 17 16:48 BST (UK) »
Last address mentioned is Shuttle Hill, Coleraine in 1886. Have you checked the valuation revision books to see when the family might have left there?

Not sure if this has been mentioned but a Jane Maguire, age 40, died Coleraine district/sub-district 29 Jan.1886

Patrick born 14 Aug.1886 so the above now ruled out
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02596/1958776.pdf
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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #21 on: Friday 28 April 17 17:02 BST (UK) »
A Jane Maguire, age 64, widow, died 9 Nov.1898, 33 Brownlow St., informant- sister Susan Adair
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05815/4646317.pdf

Added- possibly the Susan walker who married James Adair  :-\
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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 29 April 17 15:01 BST (UK) »
Last address mentioned is Shuttle Hill, Coleraine in 1886. Have you checked the valuation revision books to see when the family might have left there?

Not sure if this has been mentioned but a Jane Maguire, age 40, died Coleraine district/sub-district 29 Jan.1886

Patrick born 14 Aug.1886 so the above now ruled out
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02596/1958776.pdf
Thanks again for that aghadowey,

Her age is appropriate but the date of her death if accurate is about 8 months too early.
Jane Maguire's maiden name was McDonnell.  That rules out your other suggestion.
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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 29 April 17 15:25 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

My mother remembers meeting a relative who wore a Kilt and died in ww2 in Madagascar.
I checked the war graves site to find the cemetery and then checked the list of graves.
I found
Thomas Cameron
Rank;            Serjeant
Service No;    3127208
Age;              35
Regiment;      Royal Scots Fusiliers, 2nd Bt
Cemetery;      Diego Suarez
Son of John and Susan Cameron, husband of Martha Cameron of Coleraine, Co Londonderry, Northern Ireland.

This has got to be the son of John and Susan Cameron (Jane's Eldest Daughter)of 89 Mountcollyer Road in the 1901 census.  Thomas is recorded as aged 35 years in 1942 making his DOB about 1907.  He should show up in the 1911 census when the family were living in Cosgrove/Cosgrave street.  Unfortunately this street is missing from the 1911 census (thanks dathai) so I am unable to confirm 100 per cent.
So it seems that he at least, ended up back in Coleraine before ultimately Madagascar.
What a surprise!


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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 29 April 17 21:31 BST (UK) »
Thomas Camerson as transcribed Belfast
Birth
13th Jan 1908 at 323 North Queen St son of John same address and Susan Maguire
Informant Annie Pelan ? 86 Mountcolloyer Rd (midwife)
177 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01669/1664613.pdf

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2223550/CAMERON,%20THOMAS

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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 29 April 17 21:51 BST (UK) »
They appear to be buried here
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6587.7842
City Cemetery  Glenalina Extension G45
Susan Cameron age 48 R Vic Hosp or 33 Cosgrove St 17th Aug 1922

there was also a stillborn 1895

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Re: John Maguire of Belturbet, County Cavan, died 1959
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 29 April 17 23:16 BST (UK) »
Others born Belfast
Robert 1896
Mary Jane 1899
John 1901
William 1902
Matilda 1905
Samuel 1911
Sarah 1913