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Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« on: Wednesday 29 March 17 11:40 BST (UK) »
Im seeking my Late Grans family in Rushall area. all that I know is that she ;Amelia Roberts born 6 April 1890.died 16 Dec.1969,Ponsonby Auckland, NZ .Daughter of Amelia Larkham and John Roberts. I have vague recall of mention of a pub or guest house in the family but thats a distant childhood memory and could be way off the mark.
Any one have any knowledge of this couple?
  In Hope, Richard
Shields/Hogan.Mangawhai
Stanley/Roberts/Larkham-Larkkom-Larkkon-Larkom. of staffordshire/Warwickshire.

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Re: Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 12:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Seeker NZ

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

As a start, looks like Staffordshire is the place to begin, and the mother's name looks very 'nordic':

https://www.freebmd.org.uk
MARRIAGE: Walsall, Jun Qtr 1885
John Henry ROBERTS
Amelia LARKOM

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro
Amelia ROBERTS
Birth Registered Walsall, June Qtr 1890, mms LARKKOM

and siblings?
1886: June Qtr, Gertrude ROBERTS. MMS:  LARKKOM
1888: June Qtr, Harry ROBERTS. MMS:  LARKKOM
1894: Mar Qtr, Francis Hubert ROBERTS. MMS:  LARKKOM
1895: Jun Qtr, Jack Larkkom ROBERTS. MMS: LARKKOM
1895: Dec Qtr, Rose ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM
1897: Jun Qtr, Dorothy  ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM
1899: Mar Qtr, Robert Larkkom ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM (Volume 06B  Page 793)
1899: Mar Qtr, Editha ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM (Volume 06B  Page 793)
1900: Sep Qtr, Horace Parker ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM
1902: Jun  Qtr, Charles Claude ROBERTS, mms LARKHAM

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Re: Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 12:36 BST (UK) »
I edited my previous reply to add in more 'looks-like' sibling Birth registrations between 1885 and 1911 (including a set of twins).

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Re: Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 12:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Richard

1901:  At 55 Mill Street, Walsall, Staffordshire
RG13 -  Piece: 2706 -  Folio: 67 -  Pg18
Head: John H ROBERTS 38, Harness Manufacturer - Employer (At Home), b Walsall , Staffs
Wife: Amelia ROBERTS 36, b Birmingham, Warks.
Dau: Amelia ROBERTS 10,
Son: Hubert F ROBERTS 7,
Son: Jack L ROBERTS 6,
Dau: Dorothy L ROBERTS 4,
Son: Bob L ROBERTS 2,
Son: Horace P ROBERTS age under 9 mths,

And 'next-door':

57 Mill Street, (Royal Exchange) Walsall, Staffordshire
Head: John ROBERTS 57, Saddlers Jobbing Smith & Licensed Victualler
Wife: Frances ROBERTS 56,
Dau: Clara ROBERTS, 21, single, Dress Maker
Dau: Frances ROBERTS 19, single, Harness Stitcher
Dau: Amelia ROBERTS 17, single, Harness Stitcher
Dau: Nellie ROBERTS  12
Boarder: Leonard TILLORSON 17, single, Harness Maker,
ALL Born Walsall

So  'Walsall' in Staffs - and the pub  you've heard of is the 'Royal Exchange' run by John ROBERTS who is possibly you Amelia's grandfather?

Some info here - says ROBERTS was the licensee as early as 1880:
http://blackcountryhistory.org/collections/getrecord/GB148_1204_1_1_78/

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AMBLY
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Re: Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 13:10 BST (UK) »
In 1891: 'Rushall' is the Civil Parish, with which Walsall resides......

1891: At 49 Mill Street, Walsall (in Parish of Rushall), Staffordshire
RG12 - Piece 2257 - Folio 80 - Pg2
Head: John H ROBBERTS  (sic) 28,  Harness Manufacturer, b Walsall , Staffs
Wife: Amelia 26, b Birmingham, Warks.
Dau: Amelia 1, b Walsall

And on same page:
At 57 Mill Street, (Royal Exchange) Walsall (in Parish of Rushall), Staffordshire
Head: John ROBERTS 49, Saddle Tree(?) Riveter & Publican
Wife: Frances ROBERTS 46,
Son: William  ROBERTS, 19, single, Harness Makers Clerk
Son: Fred  ROBERTS, 17, single, Harness Maker
Dau: Clara ROBERTS, 11, Scholar,
Dau: Frances ROBERTS 9, Scholar,
Dau: Amilia ROBERTS 17, Scholar,
Grandson: Joseph P ROBERTS 3,
Servant: Marry HOLMES 19 (female), General Servant, b Barrow in Furness, Lancashire
All the ROBERTS' : Born Walsall

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Re: Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 13:31 BST (UK) »
And here is the 1881 - showing that John Henry ROBERTS, your Amelia's father and Amelia LARKKOM's husband - is  the son of John ROBERTS Snr,  the Publican Licensee of the Royal Exchange:

1881: At Royal Exchange, Mill Street, (in Parish of Rushall), Staffordshire
Head: John ROBERTS 39, Smith & Publican
Wife: Frances 36,
Son: John Hy. 18, unm, Harness Maker
Son: Joseph P. 17, Errand Boy
Son: Albert W. 13, Scholar
Son: William 7, Scholar
Son: Fred 7, Scholar
Dau: Clara 1,
Servant: Eliza JONES 20, unm, Domestic Servant, b Bilston Staffs.
All the ROBERTS' born Walsall (including a set of twins)


And this looks like Amelia LARKKON (before the 1885 Marriage)  in:
1881: At 56 Long Street, Village of Walsall, Walsall Foreign, Staffs
Head: Robert LARKKON 45, Saddle Tree Maker, b Bristol, Glouc.
Wife: Elizabeth 41, b Birmingham, Warks
Son: William 21, unm, Saddle Tree Maker, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Ellinor 17, unm, Machinist, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Amelia 16, unm, ---- Sticker, b Birmingham, Warks
Son: Edgar 15, Harness Maker, b Walsall Staffs
Son: Harrold 11, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Elfridia 10, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Rowena 8, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Mary 3, b Walsall Staffs

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AMBLY
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Re: Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 14:01 BST (UK) »
Ive spent days running in circles trying to get a lead on these rascals, If i could Kiss ya I would !
 On behalf of my dear departed Gran and Mum I thank you. Grab a pint at the Royal exchange and I'll square next time I'm passing.
Richard. in Nha Trang Vietnam.
Shields/Hogan.Mangawhai
Stanley/Roberts/Larkham-Larkkom-Larkkon-Larkom. of staffordshire/Warwickshire.

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Re: Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 March 17 12:59 BST (UK) »
Aww, you're welcome  ;D

A good lot to carry on there with, for sure!  Let us know where you get the LARKKOM name to, if you ever find out it's origin I mean, quite fascinated.

Slightly more of a chance of me calling into the Birdcage for a Lion Red, then into the Royal Exchange in Walsall though  ;)   ;D

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AMBLY



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Re: Larkham and Roberts in Rushall abt 1890.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 March 17 14:08 BST (UK) »
 My flameing oath Brother, I'd give m left knut for a session down there, not caressed a Lion Red for 5 years and I'd bypass pass all other brews to to get at one any day.
The Larkkom crew cant make up their minds how to spell the name but I'll dig em up somehow.
Kia Kaha ! and all that.
Shields/Hogan.Mangawhai
Stanley/Roberts/Larkham-Larkkom-Larkkon-Larkom. of staffordshire/Warwickshire.