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"Coroner's Order"?
« on: Thursday 30 March 17 18:24 BST (UK) »
In the burial record of Andrew Cummings of 63 Granville Road, Seaforth, buried 11th April 1908, aged 81, at Walton Park Cemetery there's a note that says "Coroner's order" - I've not seen that before, does it mean that it was an unexpected death, that there was a post-mortem, or what? Does anyone know more about this term, please?
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Re: "Coroner's Order"?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 March 17 18:35 BST (UK) »

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Re: "Coroner's Order"?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 March 17 18:39 BST (UK) »
Found this on line

The coroner may decide that a post mortem should be conducted, to assist the coroner with the decision as to whether the duty to investigate applies. Whilst awaiting the outcome of the post mortem, and having decided that no further tests on the body are required, the coroner can issue a Burial Order or Cremation Form 6 and send a slip to the registrar to that effect.

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Re: "Coroner's Order"?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 March 17 19:01 BST (UK) »
The 1874 Registration of Births and Deaths Act.
Section 17. A coroner, upon holding an inquest upon any body, may, if he thinks fit, by order under his hand authorise the body to be buried before registry of the death, and shall give such order to the relative of the deceased or other person who causes the body to be buried, or to the undertaker or other person having charge of the funeral ; and, except upon holding an inquest, no order, warrant, or other document for the burial of any body shall be given by the coroner.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1874/pdf/ukpga_18740088_en.pdf

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Re: "Coroner's Order"?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 March 17 10:54 BST (UK) »
The death certificate will give the location and cause of death. Newspapers may have covered the death. If the death was in Seaforth I would think you would need to find out about Lancashire Coroner records. Lancashire Archives should be able to tell you if any records have survived:-

https://lccsecure.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/questionnaires/runQuestionnaire.asp?qid=474749


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Re: "Coroner's Order"?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 March 17 11:22 BST (UK) »
Remember that the vast majority of deaths referred to the coroner don't end up with an inquest - many are just because no doctor is able to certify the cause.

The death certificate will make it clear if there was an inquest. If there was,  newspapers are often the best source for more information.

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Re: "Coroner's Order"?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 March 17 11:45 BST (UK) »
Remember that the vast majority of deaths referred to the coroner don't end up with an inquest - many are just because no doctor is able to certify the cause.

The death certificate will make it clear if there was an inquest. If there was,  newspapers are often the best source for more information.

except upon holding an inquest, no order, warrant, or other document for the burial of any body shall be given by the coroner. The 1874 Registration of Births and Deaths Act.

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Re: "Coroner's Order"?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 March 17 15:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you all very much. A gap in my knowledge has now been filled. The man concerned was one I was attempting to eliminate, as I tried to sort out which Andrew Cummin(g)(s) was which!
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