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Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« on: Wednesday 12 April 17 03:25 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have a marriage for these two dated 20 September 1835 at St Mary's Lambeth but the image of the register shows that it isn't the type that identifies their fathers/parents names.

Can anyone find another register entry that would show fathers/parents names.

Many thanks
Richardson, Sherman, Gillam, Hitchcock, Neighbour, Groom, Walton, Strange, Littleford, Brown, Guy, Abbs, Tasker, Bartlett, Farey, Etteridge

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Re: Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 04:01 BST (UK) »
Father's names are not given until Sept 1/4 1837. Mothers are not named on English marriage certificates.

Did you find the marriage on Ancestry? If you are able to view the original the witnesses might hold some clues.

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Re: Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 04:27 BST (UK) »
Perhaps I should have said parish register rather than GRO register.

The entry is on ancestry with witnesses Henry Newnham and Sarah Bartlett.  I can't see a connection for the first, but the second is possibly the grooms sister. 

It is also on familysearch but doesn't state anything else or show the image.

There are also four references on findmypast but I don't subscribe so can't see if there is anything else available.
Richardson, Sherman, Gillam, Hitchcock, Neighbour, Groom, Walton, Strange, Littleford, Brown, Guy, Abbs, Tasker, Bartlett, Farey, Etteridge

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Re: Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 06:08 BST (UK) »
There's nothing extra on FindMyPast. Do you have Henrys dob?


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Re: Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 18:13 BST (UK) »
Could also be the groom's mother.  I believe it was fairly common for the mother of the groom and the father of the bride to serve as witnesses.

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Re: Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 21:41 BST (UK) »
Is this the family in 1851 St Pancras
HO107/1496 f361 p9

Henry   Bartlett   38   Carpenter   bn Kingston on Thames, Surrey
Elizabeth   39   bn Bath
Charlotte 13   
Henry   11   
Theodosia    9   (birth reg gives mothers name Johnston)
Edward   8   
Catherine   6   
Elizabeth   1 month
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Re: Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 21:47 BST (UK) »
Possible baptism for Henry  :-\

Henry Bartlett
Birth 28 Sep 1812
Baptism    30 Oct 1812
Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey
Father Edward Bartlett
Mother Mary

also sister Sarah baptised All Saints, Kingston
Sarah Bartlett
Birth   26 Dec 1813
Baptism    1 May 1814

Fathers occupation was Carpenter
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Re: Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 21:54 BST (UK) »
Henry Newnham married Sarah Bartlett in 1836 one of the witnesses was Elizabeth Bartlett

The other witness was Richard Carlos - he married Harriet Busby in 1834 and Henry Newnham was one of his witnesses  ;D
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Re: Marriage Henry Bartlett to Elizabeth Johnson
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 April 17 00:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie99,

Apologies for the delay, I've been asleep.

You have confirmed things I already have on the Bartlett's, which is strongly circumstantial that Edward and Mary are the parents of Henry.

I still have no idea who Elizabeth Johnson's parents are.  From census information her birth year could be anywhere between 1808 and 1813 put the place in consistently Bath Somerset.

The Newnham/Bartlett marriage I will be investigating further as it may lead to further information about this family.

The Carlos/Busby marriage I will also investigate because in the following generations a Bartlett marries a Tasker, a Tasker marries a Littleford, and another Littleford marries a Busby.

Thanks, Mirl
Richardson, Sherman, Gillam, Hitchcock, Neighbour, Groom, Walton, Strange, Littleford, Brown, Guy, Abbs, Tasker, Bartlett, Farey, Etteridge

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