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Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« on: Friday 14 April 17 19:43 BST (UK) »
Hi I am trying to locate any information on Percy Clarence Wheeler, he was in Pentonville Prison for Housebreaking in 1928.  It does state he was born in 1900 in Caterham but I do not think this is right as my Percy Clarence Wheeler was born in 1902 in Fulham.  I am thinking it is the same person though as he had a child with his wife in 1927 a Christopher Wheeler and then disappears completely after this.  I cannot even find a death.  His wife Margery M Foward leaves him as she has a son by another man in 1929. 

What I am really interested in finding is the newspaper clipping relating to this court case or where I go to obtain more information on his stay in prison etc.  I have looked at National Archives but find them a little confusing to say the least.

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Re: Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 April 17 20:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Suzy

Who was the Percy C Wheeler that married the year before your Percy married?

Marriages Sep 1923 

Powell    Ethel G    Wheeler    Edmonton    3a   1687    
Wheeler    Percy C    Powell    Edmonton    3a   1687

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Re: Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 April 17 20:50 BST (UK) »
Or was that a first wife (a lot older)? Or a complete red herring!

Deaths Jun 1924   
Wheeler    Ethel G    41    Edmonton    3a   494

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Re: Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 April 17 21:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Giggsycat

That is Percy Cooper Wheeler.  I had looked at him.  I think there is another Percy C Wheeler as well but only one Percy Clarence as far as I can tell. :)
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Re: Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 April 17 21:04 BST (UK) »
I didn't think it would be that easy! ;D

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Re: Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 April 17 22:04 BST (UK) »
Your Percy's parents, Alfred and Mildred, were in Caterham with Alfred's parents in 1901 - so perhaps the family link with that place explains the erroneous birthplace stated for Percy in his criminal record.

RG13/631/84/5.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 April 17 07:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks avm228 that is great I did not link the two, even though I do have that census.  So it definitely is the same Percy which is what I thought, however I still want some more info on how to obtain more records from Pentonville and if there are more detailed records for inmates.  If anyone can direct me.

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Re: Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 20:25 BST (UK) »
Percy Clarence Wheeler was born on 7th December 1901 I have traced his rather criminal life thanks in part to some of Roots Chat followers.  However I am now at a lose to his death.   I just cannot find anything on when he died at all.  I ordered a certificate of a Percy Wheeler who died in Bromley but it turned out to be the wrong one.  It is feasible that he used a completely different name as he was arrested at one stage and used Arthur Albert Anderson, but i have even searched for deaths for this name but nothing jumps out.  I have printed out all deaths right up until he might have made 100 and gone through the list but still cannot find one that could be him.  I am well and truly stumped.  He did marry a Margery May Foward but they seperated.  Although when she died in 1995 on her death certificate was wife of Percy Clarence Wheeler (Retired), she died in Wales. 
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Re: Death of Percy Clarence Wheeler
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 20:32 BST (UK) »
wife of not widow of ?
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