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Offline Janice Jones

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Re: Patrick Collins
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 23 April 17 22:23 BST (UK) »
tantalising isn't it!

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Offline Helen Collins

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Re: Patrick Collins
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 16 March 19 00:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janice.

I have just stumbled on your investigations with regard to Patrick Collins and Jane Mulligan which I find most interesting, as I have being doing similar work myself.  Martin Collins and my grandfather Michael were brothers and grew up in Abbey, Loughrea, Co. Galway.  Their father Patrick was born in Derrybrien and I'm informed that he worked for a local landlord (Lewis Estate) where he met Jane Mulligan who was also working there.  Patrick had another brother Michael, who left Derrybrien and settled in the Mullagh area of Co. Galway (Drimatubber).  He was married to a Mary OBrien.  Alot of their family emigrated except for their daughter Kate who remained in the area. I, like yourself have been so far, unable to locate the marriage certificate of Patrick and Jane but I believe they were married in 1893 approx and settled in Ballygowan before eventually moving to Abbeyville nearby.

Jane from my findings was a trained nurse from Co. Meath and came to work on the Lewis Estate when she was still quite young.  Jane born to Mulligan/Enniss is the only Jane Mulligan born in Co. Meath in this time frame so it looks very like this Jane was our great grand-mother.

Good luck with the investigations!

Helen.


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Re: Patrick Collins
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janice

I was delighted to get all your additional information on the Collins side of the family.  It is really very interesting!

 I think there is a strong possibility that the Patrick Collins born in 1861 may not have survived, as you stated and the Pat born in 1867 may be our great grandfather?  It was common in those times in Ireland to give the same name to a younger sibling after the death of an older child.

With regard to the inaccurate 'age information' given in the 1901 and 1911 census - it was quite common that years were added on to a person's true age to enhance their chances of acquiring the old age pension before they were legally entitled to receive it.  This is what we are lead to believe by those who have analysed this era and it's people.

Back in May of 2006, Tom Collins (Jane's son) who was aged 102 at the time made the journey home to Abbey from America for the last time.  He was in exceptionally good health for his age and was guest of honour at a special Mass in Abbey church and a parish reception in the local community centre afterwards.  While he was at home in Ireland he did an interview with our local newspaper and stated the following:

"Thomas Joseph was born to Patrick and Jane Collins on August 6th 1903.  They met while both worked for the local landlords - the Lewis'.  His mother was a trained nurse, while his father worked on the large estate.  They married in the late 1800s and were given ground(Land) and a house by their employers, prior to the Land Act coming into force in 1903.  They had 10 boys and three girls".

Tom went on to give a lengthy interview afterwards about his own life away from Ireland and settling down in America with his wife Margaret.  Sadly Tom passed away at the age of 105 and is buried in the states.

Any developments on that missing marriage Cert ...... keep in touch!!!!
H (Ireland)