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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 April 17 17:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Rob

Just noticed these are your first posts, welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Did Grace return to the UK?
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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 April 17 17:44 BST (UK) »
Yes, thanks for your help.  That's her.  I have a transcription of the passenger list of SS California on which they travelled rom Glasgow to NY in 1912.  The James Crichton (sometimes Crighton and occasionally Creighton) mentioned earlier is Grace's father David's uncle by marriage who has an often curious relationship with the Philip family (my family). He was married to David's aunt, Helen Philip. David and family are said in that record to have been living with James - but he (David) is in the census as living with his family - virtually next door to his brothers and sisters and their families. One of his sisters was my grandmother, Maggie Philip.

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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 April 17 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Dawn (is that right?).   Yes, I have just joined Rootschat and it's proving very good. Thank your all for your help.

No, Grace never returned to the UK.  My grandmother, Grace's aunt, eventually found Grace via the aunt - apparently a relative of Grace's mother, Alice, in Scammon and corresponded with Grace and then so did my mother, her cousin - and I did too - with her youngest son, when I was 11. Unfortunately all but a couple of scraps of that correspondence have been lost - but I have photos. I also found her sons again about six months ago and they gave me more information about her life in the US.  When she was orphaned she was taken around the Midwest on a train with thousands of other orphans and adopted my a family of German immigrants.  She moved to Nevada and died there some years ago.    Rob

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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 April 17 18:23 BST (UK) »
so, can you post full details from the 1911 Scotland census?
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea


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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 April 17 18:39 BST (UK) »
Hi

Welcome to rootschat

There is a 20 year old David Philip bn Scotland at No Mans Land Fort, Portsmouth in 1891 - a Gunner in the Royal Artillery  RG12/864 f26 p45  - Could this be your David  :-\
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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 April 17 18:43 BST (UK) »
Attestation records 8th Sept 1890 for David Philip age 20 who joined Royal Artillery at Leith Fort - place of birth Forfar -father David
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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 29 April 17 18:48 BST (UK) »
i've just had a look and it just gives "England" for Grace and Alice. It also says that David and Alice have been married 5 years and have had 2 children, but only one living.

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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 29 April 17 18:50 BST (UK) »
Attestation records 8th Sept 1890 for David Philip age 20 who joined Royal Artillery at Leith Fort - place of birth Forfar -father David

His age on the 1911 census is 41 so it does fit.

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Re: Grace Philip
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 29 April 17 18:51 BST (UK) »
He's a general labourer in a jute factory in 1911.