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HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« on: Monday 01 May 17 01:18 BST (UK) »

DESPERATELY Seeking INFO on a Henry Spencer, Esq. of THORPE (Surrey?), ENGLAND, who died 1766, & married a Miss Ann LEIGH in 1737, & he was born c.1713.

HENRY SPENCER
Birth: 1713
Marriage: date 1737 - city, Norfolk, England
Death: date - 1766- city, Surrey, England
Spouse: Ann LEIGH

I am SEEKING his line of FORBEARS, or at very least, the name of his Spencer father!! Trying to Link "Henry" to the Correct SPENCER Family.

Happy to hear from anyone with Any info---i have lots of Spencer info/pix,etc. to share/exchange w/anyone who is from my Spencer line (or if Henry turns-out to be of this (my) line, as well)!!

Hope to hear from you, soon!!!

Thanks, Best Wishes,

Vienna (Spencer)

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Re: HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 May 17 07:31 BST (UK) »
Where does the Thorpe, Surrey information come from - are you sure it is not Thorpe, Norfolk

I presume this is the marriage so we have some idea where in Norfolk
Henry Spencer
Ann Leigh
4 Oct 1737
Alby, Norwich, Norfolk

There are several burials in Norfolk that could be him  ???
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Re: HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 May 17 16:03 BST (UK) »
Children Baptised Norfolk to HENRY/ANNE or Ann Spencer;
WOOLLEY LEIGH Spencer 13 June 1738 Blickling (Father a Gentleman)
HENRY Spencer 18 Jan 1739 Blickling
LOWTHER LEIGH Spencer Feb 1742/43  East Dereham
ANN LEIGH Spencer 15 Feb 1743/44 East Dereham

A THOS/ELIZA Spencer Baptised a Henry in East Dereham 8 Oct 1744 and another Henry 2 Oct 1745.

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 May 17 16:05 BST (UK) »
Extra ino on 1737 Marriage;
Henry of East Dereham Parish
Anns Parish Banninghams
Notes;
Henry Was A Gent Ann Leigh Was Late Of Blickling
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Re: HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 May 17 16:27 BST (UK) »
A WOOLEY and MARY Spencer Christen Children in Surrey 1769/1771 (F/S.Org)

A BLISS LEIGH Spencer Married Rowland FRYE 24 Mar 1768 Thorpe, Surrey
Notes;
Rowland FRYE, Junior, is from Old Windsor, Berks and is a batchelor. Bliss is of this parish and is a spinster. Witnesses: W. L. SPENCER*** and Hugh STEVENSON. By licence.

**** Wooley Leigh Spencer? Brother?

BURIALS;
St Mary, Thorpe, Surrey
LOWTHER LEIGH Spencer, son of HENRY 23 March 1765
(Mr) HENRY Spencer, 6 March 1766
ANN Spencer, 2 April 1786, Relict of HENRY Esq
TABITHA Spencer, 30 July 1769, Sister Of HENRY***
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Re: HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 May 17 16:39 BST (UK) »
BAPTISMS,, St Mary, Thorpe
Parents HENRY/Ann Spencer
GORDON BUXTON Spencer, 3 April 1747, buried 11 June 1748
HARRY LEIGH Spencer, 5 Feb 1747/48, buried 3 Oct 1748
BLISS LEIGH Spencer, 4 Feb 1748/49, birth 2 Feb****
OLLIPH LEIGH Spencer, 20 April 1750, birth 20 April
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Re: HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 May 17 16:54 BST (UK) »
A THOMAS/ELIZ Spencer, likely the ones I mentioned earlier, Baptise a TABITHA 14 Oct 1748, East Dereham, Norfolk.

At this stage I cant find a Tabitha born early 1700's but it looks to me that Henry/Tablitha and Thomas are likely Siblings.

Thomas may have married Elizabeth WINE, 12 Jan 1743/44 Wymondham, Norfolk
Bachelor/Spinster, Thomas of Diss and Elizabeth of East Dereham.
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Re: HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 May 17 21:08 BST (UK) »
Oh my GOODNESS! Thank you for ALL your Finds! It appears you may well have Solved Henry's parentage! Looks like Thomas & Elizabeth SPENCER were his folks, considering that Tabitha WAS definitely his sister (as shown by your burial records)!! AMAZING! Thank you so much for all the other info posted, as well. I know of the Wooley Leigh & brother Pliph Leigh Spencers, sons of Ann (nee Leigh) & Henry Spencer. In fact I possess info on the entire line downwards to today's current living descendants in western Canada. Just trying to go backwards further to attempt to determine WHICH Particular SPENCER family they descend from, as I suspect (from many, many unique bits of info I have on the line down thru the centuries) that they go back to MY specific Spencer line. So am attempting to determine this. So EVERY Bit of new info going backwards helps me--so I thank you PROFUSELY for it All, but Especially the Thomas/Eliz. as parents information!!! Take Care, Vienna Spencer

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Re: HENRY SPENCER, Esq.,b.c.1713, of THORPE (Surrey),m. Ann LEIGH
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 May 17 22:37 BST (UK) »
To ROSIE!!!

Good "catch"...when you say:

Where does the Thorpe, Surrey information come from - are you sure it is not Thorpe, Norfolk

I presume this is the marriage so we have some idea where in Norfolk
Henry Spencer
Ann Leigh
4 Oct 1737
Alby, Norwich, Norfolk

YES, This IS him---and the Thorpe, SURREY, i Now believe is WRONG for where they married & lived & even where Henry may have been born. I think due the marriage record, it was Always Thorpe, NORFOLK!
Where the Thorpe, SURREY comes-into the picture, is apparently when Henry & Ann (nee Leigh) SPENCER, later-on INHERIT her Uncle, Sir John Leigh's properties/ land IN, Thorpe, SURREY!

From: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/surrey/vol3/pp437-440

The manor descended from father to son until 1737, when Sir John Leigh died, and his children having predeceased him, Mary and Anne, his cousins, became his heiresses. The estates were held by them jointly.

So I think There is where the confusion came-in! So I am now CERTAIN (thanks to you!) that Henry was of NORFOLK (whether Thorpe or other small towns there, I don't yet know) & NOT "of" Thorpe, SURREY (but just possessed of those lands there, w/ his wife, in later years). 

Thanks very much,again, for your assistance!!

Sincerely,

Vienna (Spencer)