Author Topic: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917  (Read 9508 times)

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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 05 January 19 18:09 GMT (UK) »
   We can guess on the details of Elizabeth but maddy's reply #10 adds fuel to the fire.  Having said that, there are three other Elizabeth WILSON deaths in 1845 in the Mar/Jun & Dec qtrs and a further one who died in 4th qtr 1846 all in Kendal.

GRO index has those deaths
WILSON, ELIZABETH       age 82    
GRO Reference: 1845  March  Quarter in KENDAL UNION  Volume 25  Page 365
   
WILSON, ELIZABETH       age 57    
GRO Reference: 1845  June Quarter in KENDAL UNION  Volume 25  Page 316   

WILSON, ELIZABETH       age 0     
GRO Reference: 1845  Dec Quarter in KENDAL UNION  Volume 25  Page 314   

WILSON, ELIZABETH       age 19     
GRO Reference: 1845  Dec Quarter in KENDAL UNION  Volume 25  Page 324   

WILSON, ELIZABETH       age 8     
GRO Reference: 1846  Dec Quarter in KENDAL  Volume 25  Page 478
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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #37 on: Monday 07 January 19 20:11 GMT (UK) »
rosie99
fretep
maddy52
Although the Kendal Archives are closed until March, a very helpful archivist discovered another Elizabeth (of Mansergh Parish) dying on 24 Dec 1845, age 1 day, in the Kendal Workhouse Death Register (ref WCW/30).
Your last post rosie, coupled with freteps post 34 (19 Jul 17) could, only could, imply that Elizabeth senior died 25 Dec 1845 after the birth of Elizabeth jnr on 24 Dec 1845 in the Kendal Workhouse.
Infant Elizabeth was buried at the Kendal Parish Church.
The only relevant Kendal Workhouse record held in Kendal is apparently the Death Register.
In view of this I will open a Westmorland Lookup Request for a willing Rooter to look for the details of infant and possibly mother Elizabeth in the Kendal Parish Church Burial Records.
Last question, if Kendal do not hold the Workhouse records, who would be able to tell me whether the records exist or not?
Regards from a NZ swelltering in a heatwave!

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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 12:01 GMT (UK) »
This link to the workhouse website will show what records are available for Kendal workhouse - It is near to the bottom of the page
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Kendal/
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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 12 January 19 01:18 GMT (UK) »
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I know it's way back now but can you (fretep) please give me your source of the information contained in your 19 Jul 2017 post please.  The only 19 year Elizabeth WILSON who died (of Consumption) on 25 Dec 1845, was a School Mistress, she being the daughter of a Thomas Wilson (GRO: Dec 1845 Kendal Vol 25 Pg 324) Milnthorpe, Kendal Union, which rosie also recently highlighted for me.  Hence I would be grateful for the source of your input.




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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 12 January 19 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Just bringing forward the post you refer to.  fretep has not been on here since they posted that, hopefully they will get an email about this post

quote author=fretep link=topic=770826.msg6287617#msg6287617 date=1500479694]
The Elizabeth WILSON who died within the Kendal registration district (Dec 1/4, 1845, aged 19) was the daughter of James WILSON (maltster and miller) of Viver, Heversham. She died on Christmas day. Her father died at Viver on the 30 Mar 1838 (aged 53) and her brother James died at Croft farm, Leasgill on the 10 Feb 1846 (aged 28, of small pox). Neither James left a will, yet administration bonds exist for both.
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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #41 on: Friday 18 January 19 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Just received the GRO pdf for the Elizabeth WILSON who died 24 Dec 1845 in the Kendal Workhouse age 1 day - she was the daughter of a Jane WILSON :-[

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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 19 January 19 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to hear that she is not who you are looking for.
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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #43 on: Monday 04 February 19 10:39 GMT (UK) »
I just noticed your query re one of my earlier posts. The detail came from several newspapers, as follows: 

The Kendal Mercury (3 Jan 1846) recorded the death of Elizabeth, her age and her relationship to the late Mr James WILSON, of Viver, Heversham.

The Westmorland Gazette (24 Oct 1840) recorded the marriage of James junior, son of the late Mr. James WILSON of Viver. Other newspapers record his death and his widow/children were found within census returns.

The Kendal Mercury (7 Apr 1838) and the Westmorland Gazette (7 Apr 1838) both record the death of Mr James WILSON of Viver.

Probate references can be found on the Lancashire Archives website (  http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/calmview/advanced.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog ).

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Re: Richard W WARD of Kendal 91843-1917
« Reply #44 on: Friday 13 December 19 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, I’ve recently come across this thread. I’m Tracy Ward, daughter of Leslie Ward, granddaughter of Leslie Ward and Great granddaughter of Charles Haslam Ward. I have Discovered so much information on here. It’s deeply curious and I ‘m so interested to know more. My DNA ancestors shows me at 61% Irish which mainly stems from my mums family but there is also some Norwegian in there too which has made me start looking further into my dads family tree. I do love to know if you managed any further updates on your search?
Cheers, Trace