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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 06 May 17 11:51 BST (UK) »
I think it's Caroline's daughter born in NZ in 1912 who was adopted, not Caroline herself.
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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 06 May 17 11:54 BST (UK) »

Did your grandmother know she was adopted?

When did the adoptive parents die?. And during their lifetime someone was researching the origins of their adopted daughter...your mother?. Was it the parents...do you recognise the handwriting?

Might suggest if the family found was the right Caroline RICHARDSON, or one of several considered.
No, she got quite a shock when she found the documents
Adoptive parents died in the 1960's
No one has attempted a search before this
Both our research and the man in the Brighton records office came up with this family.  A number of my friends have also researched, and always come up with this family.
 

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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 06 May 17 11:55 BST (UK) »
I think it's Caroline's daughter born in NZ in 1912 who was adopted, not Caroline herself.

Yes, that is correct

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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 06 May 17 11:58 BST (UK) »
Hi kiwi25

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Are you new to family history?

if so we can give you pointers as to which sites to use for more information such as www.freebmd.org.uk for birth, marriage and death index entries.

www.familysearch.org is good but coverage is worlwide so finding entries might be tricky.

Also there are www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk

As your grandmother was born c1885 you should be able to find her in the 1891 census with her parents.

Yes I am new to roots hat
Have checked the 1891 census and found this family, with more siblings than I spoke of above


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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 06 May 17 12:00 BST (UK) »
Marriage Henry Richardson
Age: 19
Birth Date: 1860
Marriage Date: 22 Nov 1879
Hove,Sussex,England
Father: Henry Richardson
Spouse: Catherine Batts
FHL Film Number: 1067213
Yes, this the entry we found - and yes, there were more children
There are considerably more children than the three others stated

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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 06 May 17 12:07 BST (UK) »

I can see that it is possible to find this family of Henry and Catherine RICHARDSON, but who was doing the research fifty years ago, and what information did they start with to locate that family.....and did the researcher determine that it was the correct family.

I cannot see the 1912 birth on BDM......RICHARDSON birth. Was Caroline a married woman or single.

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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 06 May 17 12:16 BST (UK) »


I am confused. Can you please clarify what notes were with the adoption papers, all made before the adoptive parents died in the 1960s


Option #1
 "Caroline Richardson, 27, born in Brighton, England. Have ordered her birth certificate and read the entry of her birth in a handwritten register. Her father was Henry (bricklayer) and her mother was Catherine (née Batt). Siblings were Frederick, Albert, Kate.

I am reading this to mean all the above was recorded before the parents died ie. someone was researching Caroline.


Option #2
 "Caroline Richardson, 27, born in Brighton, England.

This was recorded before the parents died.

And subsequently, as part of your research, you -
Have ordered her birth certificate and read the entry of her birth in a handwritten register. Her father was Henry (bricklayer) and her mother was Catherine (née Batt). Siblings were Frederick, Albert, Kate.

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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 06 May 17 12:21 BST (UK) »


I am confused. Can you please clarify what notes were with the adoption papers, all made before the adoptive parents died in the 1960s

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Option #1
 "Caroline Richardson, 27, born in Brighton, England. Have ordered her birth certificate and read the entry of her birth in a handwritten register. Her father was Henry (bricklayer) and her mother was Catherine (née Batt). Siblings were Frederick, Albert, Kate.

I am reading this to mean all the above was recorded before the parents died ie. someone was researching Caroline.


Option #2
 "Caroline Richardson, 27, born in Brighton, England.

This was recorded before the parents died.

And subsequently, as part of your research, you -
Have ordered her birth certificate and read the entry of her birth in a handwritten register. Her father was Henry (bricklayer) and her mother was Catherine (née Batt). Siblings were Frederick, Albert, Kate.

Option 2 is correct. The only information we have is on the bottom of the adoption document - Mother Caroline Richardson aged 27, born Brighton england

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Re: Help wanted to find biological family of grandmother,
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 06 May 17 12:30 BST (UK) »
It looks as though Catherine Richardson died in 1899 (Steyning) aged 46, and Henry remarried in Brighton Dec qtr 1900 to Matilda Divall.
One interesting thing, after Henry re-married, Caroline (then aged15) and her brother Frederick appear to be living with their paternal uncle Frederick according to the 1901 census. But Henry (her father) was still alive.