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Re: Births/Baptisms Hope Flintshire
« Reply #27 on: Monday 03 June 19 10:22 BST (UK) »
Ok a Tree has Evan on it, married Alice Williams, no Children etc for them though.
It has his Parents as John DYKINS 1772-1834 and Elizabeth JONES 1775
Children of John/Mary;
Mary 1794-1864
Edward 1797-1870
John 1800-1878
Elen 1802
Evan 1805
Philip 1807-1891
Thomas 1810
Joseph 1812
William 1814
Elizabeth 1817-1841 (married William JONES**)

They have no Marriage date for John/Elizabeth but its on F/S.Org;   

MARRIAGE;
17 May 1794, Nannerch, Flintshire, Wales
John DYKINS age 22 to Elizabeth JONES

Now I cant confirm all of this except the Marriage.

But they are wrong with Elizabeth Jones nee Dykins dying 1841

1851 Census in Holywell we have;
Elizabeth Jones, 33, Head, Mar, ? Wife
Mary Ann Jones, 8
Walter Jones, 3
Mary Dykins, 61, Sister, Unm, Formerly Dress maker

Marys age is a little out, 1841 she is born c 1796 as Mary Dinkens. Living with William/Elizabeth Jones.

Hi There,

I see this thread is 2 yrs old. I am also trying to find out when Elizabeth JONES nee DYKINS died. I know it was after 1841. I know she married a William JONES.

If Joanne1969 wants to contact me she is welcome to. I am also researching the DYKINS Family as well.

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Re: Births/Baptisms Hope Flintshire
« Reply #28 on: Monday 03 June 19 13:22 BST (UK) »
Is this the Elizabeth Jones nee Dykins you are researching?

1851 Census we have;
William Jones, 39
Elizabeth Jones, 30
Peter Jones, 19
Mary Ellin Jones, 9
Catherine Frances Jones, 7
Price Hope Jones, 4
Alphed Jones, 1*****

**Look at image is not Alphed or Alfred
(see below)

Elizabeth is age 30 on the image and it looks to me that William remarried to another Elizabeth.


JONES, MARY  ELLEN, Mothers mn DYKINS*** 
GRO Reference: 1842  J Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 243

JONES, SARAH  ANN, Mother DYKINS 
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 244

JONES, PRICE, Mother JONES*** 
GRO Reference: 1846  S Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 223

JONES, ABEDNESS, Mother   JONES*** 
GRO Reference: 1849  D Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 204

Trish :)

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Re: Births/Baptisms Hope Flintshire
« Reply #29 on: Monday 03 June 19 13:52 BST (UK) »
JONES, ELIZABETH age 27*** 
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 243

JONES, SARAH  ANN age 1** 
GRO Reference: 1846  S Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 148

So it looks possible Elizabeth died in childbirth with Sarah Ann. And the poor child died a year later.

1841 in Llanasa we have;
William Jones   30
Elizabeth Jones   20
Peter Jones   8

I may have this all wrong but with such a name Jones its hard to be sure.
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Re: Births/Baptisms Hope Flintshire
« Reply #30 on: Monday 03 June 19 14:04 BST (UK) »
Marriage of William/Elizabeth; 9 March 1836, Bagillt, Flintshire, Wales

JONES, JOHN  DYKINS, Mother DYKINS** 
GRO Reference: 1839  S Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 195
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Re: Births/Baptisms Hope Flintshire
« Reply #31 on: Monday 03 June 19 14:50 BST (UK) »
1871 in Lancashire we have;
John H Minshull, 24, Head, Mar, Railway Clerk , born Manchester
Catherine Minshull, 25, Wife, Mar, born Flintshire**
Emily Minshull, 8 Months, Daug
Mary Jones, 27, Sister in Law, Unm, Governess, born Flintshire**
Robert Jones, 25, Boarder, Unm, Clerk

1881 in Lancashire;
John H. Minshull   34
Catherine F. Minshull 35
Emily M. Minshull 10
John H. Minshull   8
Elizabeth M. Minshull   5
Isac W. Minshull   1
Elizabeth Jones   59 Mother in Law, Widow ****
Emily J. Jones   27 Sister in Law born Llanasa***

MINSHULL, EMILY  MATILDA, Mother JONES** 
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 640

1891 in Lancs;

Elizabeth Jones   66
Press H Jones   43
Emily J Jones   39
Elizabeth Jones   33
William J Pearce   14
Emily J Pearce   13
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Re: Births/Baptisms Hope Flintshire
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 00:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish,

I am researching Elizabeth DYKINS born about 1817 who married a William JONES
The 2 children I have for them are John Dykins JONES born 1839 (baptism 12 July 1839) Holywell, Flintshire, Wales, and Mary Ellen JONES born 1843. I am not sure if there were more children or not.
I believe she died after 1841.
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Re: Births/Baptisms Hope Flintshire
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 13:43 BST (UK) »
Hi newbe-nz,

Have a read through what i posted all the info you required is there;

William Jones/Eliza Dykins Marriage date;
3 chilren to them
John Dykins Jones
Mary Ellen Jones
Sarah Ann Jones

Seems to me Elizabeth died 1845 age 27 ( born c 1818)
Sarah Ann died the next year age 1

William remarried another Elizabeth and had;
Price 1846
Abedness 1849
These have on their GRO birth regs Mothers maiden name as JONES

I have no idea who Catherine Frances 1844 belongs too, likely 2nd Wife Elizabeths Daughter.

I cant pin down as second Marriage for William Jones as Elizabeth may have been a Widow and the it could be under any name, But from birth regs her maiden name was Jones
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