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Offline tjh1989

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two civil birth registrations for the same person?
« on: Saturday 06 May 17 17:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

I was looking for a Rachel Hardesty born in Woodbastwick, Norfolk (Blofield Civil registration district) and found the attached entries on the GRO index.

As you can see these are identical entries but for the year difference (only 2 years) and that one specifies a middle name. I was thinking originally that these may be sisters but is this likely (unless one died)?

I think this (or one of) Rachel appears in the 1881 census:
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Registration district Henstead
ED, institution, or vessel 3
Piece 1958
Folio 37
Page number 10

Does anyone know what is going on here?

Many thanks

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Re: two civil birth registrations for the same person?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 May 17 17:32 BST (UK) »
In the census mentioned above, Rachel is 10.

Baptism?
Name:   Rachel Hardesty
Gender:   Female
Baptism Date:   26 Dec 1880
Baptism Place:   Shottesham St Mary, Norfolk, England
Father:   Thomas Hardesty
Mother:   Priscilla Leah Elizabeth Hardesty
FHL Film Number:   1526703

Same Rachel is 2 months in 1871 - so definitely the 1871 birth
RG10; Piece: 1828; Folio: 151; Page: 7

Parents married in 1861:
Marriages Sep 1861   
Hardisty    Thomas        Blofield    4b   295    
Randall    Leah        Blofield    4b   295    

Cannot find a baptism or death 1869 - 1871 for a Rachel Alice Hardesty but there was a birth & death on 1865.
Births Sep 1865   
Hardesty    Rachel Alice        Blofield    4b   17
HARDESTY, RACHEL  ALICE     RANDALL 
GRO Reference: 1865  S Quarter in BLOFIELD UNION  Volume 04B  Page 179

and death
Deaths Sep 1865   
Hardesty    Rachel Alice        Blofield    4b   151

Doesn't fully answer your question though, sorry. Perhaps 1969 Rachel Alice's death was not registered....
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: two civil birth registrations for the same person?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 May 17 17:51 BST (UK) »
Rachel Alice's death;
1869 Dec
Blofield
Norfolk
Volume:   4b
Page:   193
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: two civil birth registrations for the same person?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 May 17 18:04 BST (UK) »
Oh well done; good find. Not coming up on freebmd this is all the Rachels in Norfolk that quarter
Deaths Dec 1869   
Cushing    Rachel    14    Walsingham    4b   194    
Harrold    Rachel    83    Mitford    4b   177    
Pryor    Rachel    0    Ely    3b   360
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: two civil birth registrations for the same person?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 May 17 18:08 BST (UK) »
4B 193 is missing on FreeBMD.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/