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John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 01:28 BST (UK) »
A Van Diemen's Land convict of mine, one John Windsor, has seemed to bob up in Invercargill briefly between 1874-1881. I found his move mentioned in his wife's death notice in Launceston in 1884 and then found just 3 electoral records for him but thus far not other NZ records for him. He died in Launceston in 1891.
Ann Windsor death:
 Launceston Examiner (Tas. : 1842 - 1899)    Mon 16  Jun 1884
WINDSOR— On 15th June, at her residence, Charles-street, Ann, wife of Mr. John Windsor, of Invercargill (formerly of Launceston), in her 58th year, Invercargill and Melbourne papers please copy

Some ideas please of where else I may search?
I noted from Ann's funeral notice that John is said to be in Invercargill! I have found a JW in a Dee Street , Invercargill in 1874-1875 Census, in 1878 he is said to be in Section 4, block 19 Invercargill , and finally in 1881 he is described as a bellman in Invercargill. If i assume its ours as there is no other . I wonder what the story was . He died in Launceston in 1891 so what was he upto?

Ps just found a link in NZ to a lovely engraving of a bellman so its more like the definition I found online as bellman being like a town crier rather than the hotel bellhop: see http://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/object/42603

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Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 01:39 BST (UK) »
A John Windsor appears on these electoral rolls for Invercargill

John Windsor    1875-1876    Invercargill    Southland    
John Windsor    1880-1881    Invercargill    Southland    
John Windsor    1880-1881    Invercargill    Southland    
John Windsor    1880-1881    Invercargill    Southland

Someone with a full Ancestry sub may be able to tell you if it at the same address in the 3 1880-1881 entries

Unfortunately NZ doen't have any census records

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Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 01:50 BST (UK) »
An earlier entry

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ST18660117.2.29?query=%22john%20windsor%22%20invercargill

A john Windsor in Invercargill in 1866

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Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 02:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Stavros

I imagine that you have gathered the info you've referred to as being from the NZ "census" records, from the electoral listings for those years ?

Here's a little more regarding the fire at Deveron Street, Invercargill (Oct. 1881) ... it briefly mentions "Mr WINDSOR, the bellman".

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ST18811007.2.13

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Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 02:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Janette for the quick replies. I corrected my earlier query to have electoral records instead of Census.  The 1866 article is interesting... I wonder if he indeed is mine?

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Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 02:09 BST (UK) »
Mr WINDSOR .... and the position of bellman, mentioned in following 1884 article.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ST18840229.2.18

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Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 02:10 BST (UK) »
Stavros  ... can you tell us please what was the former occupation of your John WINDSOR ?

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Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 02:18 BST (UK) »
Lucy,
He was a jeweller, then convict after being sentenced to transportation to VDL. I have those records.  and then a dealer in Launceston. The only record I found, as you said,on the electoral roll says he was a bellman. If he is mine he died at 84 in 1891 so work as a bellman I assume would not be too energetic ? I only found last week from his wife's death notice that he was said to be in Invercargill . Have no idea how long he was there. Janette found a coronial enquiry from 1866 with a John Windsor who may or may not be mine. Love to find shipping records etc for him...
Thanks Stephen aka Stavros