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Ship Muster Rolls
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 11:36 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Please feel free to move this to a more suitable forum. I was stuck where to post it!

I am trying to locate the muster rolls for three ships for a research project, however, National Archives have said they don't have them online and want a small fortune to send them to me.

Does anyone else know where I can locate the rolls for the following:

Namur 1757
Charming Sally, 1762-1763
HMS Racehorse 1773

Huge thanks for your help,

Colleen
DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche

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Re: Ship Muster Rolls
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 16:27 BST (UK) »
I would say the National Archives. Seaweed will know for sure
Kirtland (Oxfordshire Windsor, Berkshire)
Lipscombe (Longwick Berkshire, Maidenhead)
Marsh (London, Monksweirmouth, Durham+Berks  Bucks, Wokingham
Reynolds (Buckinghamshire Stoke on Trent)
Green, Stoke Poges
Brown (Co Durham, Windsor, Wokingham)
Wilson (Eton)
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Re: Ship Muster Rolls
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Nifty1


Thanks for your advice.

I have tried the National Archives, but they don't have a downloadable copy of them. They are asking for 27.00 just to search for them, and then I have to pay for them sending to me, which I really don't want to have to do if they are available online elsewhere.

Thanks again,

Colleen
DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche

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Re: Ship Muster Rolls
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 17:03 BST (UK) »
TNA normally advise if a copy is available elsewhere, presumably they are holding the original.

Have you got the details from their website as to which documents require searching
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Re: Ship Muster Rolls
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 17:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie99,

The Namur's muster roll is located in ADM 52/662
The Racehorse is located in    ADM 52/1416

So far they can't find Charming Sally's.

Thanks

Colleen
DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche

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Re: Ship Muster Rolls
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 17:49 BST (UK) »
Just posting the links from the catalogue in case someone can help

Namur 1757
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C6276495

Racehorse 1773
1771 Nov 18 - 1773 Mar 31
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C6278014
1773 Apr 19 - 1773 Oct 13
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C6278015

Quite a bit to wade through  :-\

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Re: Ship Muster Rolls
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 17:50 BST (UK) »
This is what they appear to have on Charming Sally
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=Charming+Sally
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Re: Ship Muster Rolls
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 17:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie,

Thanks for that. The April - October roll is perfect, it is the Arctic expedition I am interested so that would cover that.

Huge thanks

Colleen
DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche

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Re: Ship Muster Rolls
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 May 17 15:31 BST (UK) »
Hello Colleen,

Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, mortgage the house, and pay the fees - it all depends on just how badly you want the information. I know because I've had to do it. In the end it was worthwhile though because those Chancery records I got were full of illuminating details.

However, there is a second tack available. Be "Zen" about your search. Imagine that you are that information and think of places that it may also exist.

You mention an Arctic expedition for RACEHORSE. If there is a good reference library accessible to you, spend a day there looking through the indices, bibliographies and footnotes of every book you can find on historical Arctic expeditions. It may be that someone else, years ago, has consulted the very TNA files that you are interested in. Yes, it's a very long shot but sometimes they do pan out.

Cheers,
Westoe