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Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« on: Saturday 13 May 17 23:50 BST (UK) »
Is anyone able to read the attached extract from the 1586 will of Sylvester Nethersole of Barham?

I can read most of the will however the writing seems a little unclear in places. Can anyone make out what it says at the bottom half from where it says "I give unto my son John Nethersole...."?

If anyone can make this out please let me know.

Many thanks in advance

Matt

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Re: Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 May 17 00:46 BST (UK) »
... It(e)m I geve and
beqweathe unto Will(ia)m Nethersole
my yoongest soon to be payde w(i)thin
on* yeere after my decease fortye
pound(es) of good & lawfull inglyshe
moonye  It(e)m I geve unto my soon
John Nethersole his wyfe A towell of
Damaske and ^A^ table clothe of Damaske
the longest that I have  It(e)m I geve
unto my Doughter Ryckard my ...

     * = one

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Re: Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 May 17 19:44 BST (UK) »
... It(e)m I geve and
beqweathe unto Will(ia)m Nethersole
my yoongest soon to be payde w(i)thin
on* yeere after my decease fortye
pound(es) of good & lawfull inglyshe
moonye  It(e)m I geve unto my soon
John Nethersole his wyfe A towell of
Damaske and ^A^ table clothe of Damaske
the longest that I have  It(e)m I geve
unto my Doughter Ryckard my ...

     * = one

Many thanks for that. Would you mind having a look at the second page (or a section of it)?

Matt

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Re: Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:15 BST (UK) »
Matt, I suggest you just post it and someone will surely help.

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Re: Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 May 17 00:31 BST (UK) »
Matt, I suggest you just post it and someone will surely help.

Yes I'll do that. I'll probably post it in sections though otherwise the file size will be too big for one post. Frustratingly as you can see the writing isn't all scrawly and messy like some old handwriting is. This Will just looks like it was written with a paintbrush lol!! Some parts are clear and some parts leave you guessing. Annoyingly I can read most of the Will but it gets unclear in

Anyhow I'll upload another section to see if you or anyone else can help.

In the following section I'm trying to make out the names of the children. At the top it mentions "John Nethersole my son" and then it looks like it says Thomas or possibly Vincent, followed by a name I can't quite make out. I think that name might be Winifred but I'm not sure. After this it reads "son of Edward .................. my son lately deceased" I can't quite make out what it says after Edward.

The following section is a bit clearer though and names her god daughters "Francis Smithcott" and something "Mundyd" but I don't know if I've read that correctly. It looks like she is to get thirteen shillings at some point but I might be wrong.

Near the end of the extract Sylvester mentions her son Michael but after that it looks like a messy scrawl and I'm having trouble deciphering it.

Anyhow if anyone can clear this up or fill in any gaps it would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Matt

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Re: Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 May 17 06:13 BST (UK) »
...It(e)m I geve
unto John Nethersole my soon John
his soun / unto Thomas Whittfeild
ye soon of Edward Whittfield
my soon(n) lately deceased / unto fran(n)cis
Smytheott my god daughter And to marg(ar)ett
Mundye my god daughter unto eyther
of them ten shyllinges, To be payde
to theyr uses w(i)thin on
yeere after my decease yf yt be
deman(n)ded  It(e)m I geve unto
Michaell my sonn chrystofers man(n)
Ten shyllinges /  The resydewe of...


Notes:

1.  The first John named is his grandson.

2.  Although it looks like Smythcott the letter is clearly an e.  Compare the c and e in the word deceased.

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Re: Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 May 17 00:15 BST (UK) »
...It(e)m I geve
unto John Nethersole my soon John
his soun / unto Thomas Whittfeild
ye soon of Edward Whittfield
my soon(n) lately deceased / unto fran(n)cis
Smytheott my god daughter And to marg(ar)ett
Mundye my god daughter unto eyther
of them ten shyllinges, To be payde
to theyr uses w(i)thin on
yeere after my decease yf yt be
deman(n)ded  It(e)m I geve unto
Michaell my sonn chrystofers man(n)
Ten shyllinges /  The resydewe of...


Notes:

1.  The first John named is his grandson.

2.  Although it looks like Smythcott the letter is clearly an e.  Compare the c and e in the word deceased.

Many Thanks for this.

Matt

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Re: Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 June 19 17:16 BST (UK) »
Fascinating to read this will extract as I am currently building a pedigree for Nethersole and I have that Sylvester (dau. of Thomas Ladd of Barham) married a Nethersole (slight confusion as to which one, but I think Vincent as his 2nd wife) and had:

1/ John Nethersole (1546-1627) who m. 1581 Peregryne Wylforde of Nonnington
2/ Alexander Netherole (living 1596)
3/ Christopher Nethersole, gent., of Dover (will 1596, pr.1597)
4/ Vyncent Nethersole of Wimingswould (living 1596) who m. Elizabeth Denne of Kingston
5/ Afra or Aphra who m. 1584 Francis Rickarde, gent. of Barham and/or Postling
6/ Amye who m. 1576 Andrew Smythest of Buckland
7/ Mary who m. Thomas Mundye
8/ Sara who m. Francis Burden, gent. of Dover

I also have a Steven Nethersole (who I suspect is a cousin of the above children, but I am not sure how) who m. 1583 at Barham Elizabeth Longe.

I can take this Nethersole pedigree backwards and forwards in time and should be pleased to compare notes if you are on the same journey.

Many thanks,
Caspar
Steavens of Bermondsey & Kent

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Re: Sylvester Nethersole of Barham
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 June 19 17:58 BST (UK) »
It looks as though the bequest is to Johnís wife and is of a towel of damask and a doublet and hose of damask.
Elizabeth