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Archimedes Litherland.
« on: Friday 26 May 17 13:36 BST (UK) »
I`m not sure where this post should go, so will start with his home county. I can`t find him after 1879 so any details are from a Family Tree and I can`t prove them to be correct.
Can anyone help ?
Archimedes Socrates Cicero Litherland 18441905 (Died in Melbourne  Australia)

1861 with his  mother as a printer in Liverpool
He married Kate Akitt  1 Jan 1865 at Everton

In 1871  Carlisle.
Archimedes Litherland 26 lithographic printer b Liverpool
Kate Litherland 38 b Liverpool

1879 with his full name in Newcastle Courier as an auctioneer in Carlisle .
1881  Archimedes is not found.
1881  Westmoreland.  On her own
Kate Litherland 47 auctioneers wife  b Liverpool

No death found for Kate or Archimedes in Britain. 

The following is from an on line tree,  it suggests he added the name Cunard. If he had  Socrates as well I would say it was him but ?
Arrival 19 Nov 1888  Sydney, New South Wales
Marriage 1884 Victoria to Catherine Helen Gordon Russell
   
1889-1890 Queensland, Australia
Described as theatrical manager in joint application for patent for improved apparatus for creating illusions. Located at Waverley Hotel Melbourne.
Another such application granted in Victoria for apparatus for improvement in illuminated advertisements.
Took  the name of Archimedes Litherland Cunard.
Departure Feb 1903 New South Wales, Australia
1903 Garden Vale, Balaclava, Victoria, Australia
As A Cunard, with wife Ellen. Manager and vocalist
Died 1905


I can see a link with him being a lithographic printer  and illuminated advertisments, but all other Australian records which I cannot access have him as Archimedes Litherland.

is this his daughter ?
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Re: Archimedes Litherland.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 May 17 13:48 BST (UK) »
Hiya
The death registration in Melbourne 1905
Archimedes Litherland age  60 ref 2368 son of Richard and Mary Litherland
That does look like a fit.

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Re: Archimedes Litherland.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 May 17 15:27 BST (UK) »
thanks.
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Re: Archimedes Litherland.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 May 17 10:57 BST (UK) »
The patent applications appeared in Australian newspapers.
Have a look at:
 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/
Search for Archimedes Cunard.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Archimedes Litherland.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 May 17 17:26 BST (UK) »
Alice Litherland
birth registered 1887
Richmond Victoria
mother Helen Gordon Russell
father Archimedas Litherland


Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Archimedes Litherland.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 May 17 17:37 BST (UK) »
100 Brideport St Melbourne, 1912
Alice Beatrice Cunard,artiste and mother Helen Gordon Russell Cunard manageress
wonder what she managed a music hall or similar


found the link Mary Ann Russell owned a theatre and Archimedes is the manager in 1903
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Archimedes Litherland.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 May 17 17:46 BST (UK) »

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Re: Archimedes Litherland.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 May 17 18:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks.

I see the photo has the name Mayall Photo . Brighton and London. Similer to the one of
Lord Alfred Tennyson, 1864 .
There is a link with Melbourne.  but this seems to have been  before Archimedes moved there.
I wonder if Helen Gordon Russell  was English ?

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Re: Archimedes Litherland.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 May 17 19:05 BST (UK) »
I found an article about him saying he had left London in 1879, but his wife Kate was still in Carlisle in 1881 , as an auctioneers wife !
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