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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 11 March 18 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Making slow progress on my brick wall. Followed up on the Quelkhorn clue and found a site with pictures of gravestones. Great resource.

http://grabsteine.genealogy.net/namelist.php?cem=99&lang=en

Found lots of associated names of people I had found in Liverpool, boarding together.

Someone pointed me towards the neighbouring parish of Fischerhude, some familiar names here also. Still no way of connecting them to the original ancestor Henry Shumacker b ~ 1819 Hanover.

Is anyone familiar with this area of Germany? Does anyone know of any other resources for this area?

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 11 March 18 14:32 GMT (UK) »
I wonder no one has pointed you to the European Forum where surely more help would be forthcoming, i.e. viele posts regarding Germany.
Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 11 March 18 15:08 GMT (UK) »
I thought this thread was on the Europe forum, or do you mean another forum altogether  ???

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 11 March 18 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Ooops sorry!!
Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 11 March 18 16:04 GMT (UK) »
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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 15 March 18 08:54 GMT (UK) »
Focusing on the area Quelkhorn, Ottersberg in Verdun, Germany.

Reading the sugar bakers database for origins in the area I keep seeing references to the Metzner Shipping Lists and Horst Roessler research.

The first I guess is obvious. How can I access both of these resources?

Looking for Henry Schumacher b ~ 1819. Possible date of immigration in early 1840’s to England

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 15 March 18 10:44 GMT (UK) »
The late Len Metzner was a founder member of the Anglo-German FHS. His indexes, held by AGFHS for members' use, are transcriptions of the records found of German migrants entering England that appear in TNA HO2 & HO3, mostly 1840s & 1850s. The TNA original records are now available on Ancestry, I think.
I have an extract from Len's Lists of the names of those who gave their occupation as sugarbaker, but Henry is not listed ... but then many migrants were simply ag labs who found work in the sugarhouses as labourers. Henry may appear on the full list and therefore in the TNA records.

Horst is a German researcher, lecturer and author who concentrates on those sugar workers who migrated from Lower Saxony. I'll pass your message on.
Almeroth, Germany (maybe Hessen).

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 15 March 18 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for this

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 02 April 19 15:17 BST (UK) »
Henry Schumacher, sugar boiler, spouse Catherine Johnson

I have been looking for two brothers and one sister, born 1819 to ~ 1832. Place of birth given as Germany/ Hanover in various censuses. The only connection I have is that they all appear on the same gravestone in Anfield Cemetery, Liverpool and that Daniel is listed as Henry’s brother on the death certificate in 1883 in Liverpool (Henry Schumacher).

 I now have three possible births from a tree on Ancestry. The place name is a new one for me and there is little additional information.

Can anyone add to this information or point me in the right direction? To reiterate, I have them on various censuses in the UK. It is the connection in Germany that is eluding me.

Johann Georg Heinrich Christian Schumacher 8 Nov 1819, christened 10 Nov 1819 at Sankt Agidien, Hannover (Family Search)

Hannover, Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony) Germany

Metta Schumacher Otten 1830-1901

Daniel Schumacher 1832-1900

Possible parents Schumacher, Friedericke Iden