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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 09:34 BST (UK) »
Sankt Agidien, Hanover

I have learned that Friedericke Iden may have been an unmarried mother originally from Linden, Hanover.

I have not yet found documentation to verify these links. I tend to get lost very quickly on the Achion site.


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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 15:14 BST (UK) »
Henry Schumacher, sugar boiler, spouse Catherine Johnson

I have been looking for two brothers and one sister, born 1819 to ~ 1832. Place of birth given as Germany/ Hanover in various censuses. The only connection I have is that they all appear on the same gravestone in Anfield Cemetery, Liverpool and that Daniel is listed as Henry’s brother on the death certificate in 1883 in Liverpool (Henry Schumacher).

 I now have three possible births from a tree on Ancestry. The place name is a new one for me and there is little additional information.

Can anyone add to this information or point me in the right direction? To reiterate, I have them on various censuses in the UK. It is the connection in Germany that is eluding me.

Johann Georg Heinrich Christian Schumacher 8 Nov 1819, christened 10 Nov 1819 at Sankt Agidien, Hannover (Family Search)

Hannover, Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony) Germany

Metta Schumacher Otten 1830-1901

Daniel Schumacher 1832-1900

Possible parents Schumacher, Friedericke Iden

My gt.grandfather was born in the Kingdom of Hanover too. The usual given name is the one next to the surname and the three previous given names were usually donated by the three male sponsors/witnesses/godfathers - all sponsors chosen either because the person could give the child a job later on in life or was a relative - for instance, my gt.grandfather had three names "Franz Jacob Henning Flamme" his own was "Henning" =  "little Henry" he was named in favour of his father Heinrich/Henry..... and his first sponsor was his grandfather Franz Flemme, the name "Jacob" was donated by a local shopkeeper.

 and by looking at the names of my gt.grandfather's children born in the UK they gave the clue to his parents names  "William Henry" and "Edith Sophia".  Thus, if you know the names of Henry's children, the first son will be the name of his father and the second daughter will be the name of his mother.
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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 16:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this. Very similar to Scottish naming tradition although the given name would usually be first.

Henry’s first son 1846 was indeed Henry but his second son was Noble after I believe his maternal grandfather.

Something to investigate.

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 19:16 BST (UK) »
I’m beginning to think that Johann Georg Heinrich Christian Schumacher is a red herring and that the Ancestry tree is wrong 😱 What a surprise.

Will continue to look for Henry (1819), Metta (1827) and Daniel (1832) Schumacher born to the same parents in Hannover.

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 06 April 19 22:51 BST (UK) »
Just back from holiday and spotted this thread again, so I've been mooching around on FamilySearch ... take a look at the village of Lamstedt, Hannover for the name Schumacher (+ variants) and perhaps think in terms of cousins as well as siblings.
There's a Daniel 1831, Metta 1824 and lots more.

As they say on your other thread ... don't give up, we'll get there in the end. I want to know Henry's origins as well !

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Almeroth, Germany (maybe Hessen).

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Re: German Births ~ 1830
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 07 April 19 06:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks sugarbakers. I will follow this up.