Parents of Robert Jones b. 1865-67 Bangor

[Jonesey2]

I've come to a dead end in my search for the parents of my great grandfather, Robert Jones, mariner in the Merchant Service. I know from his marriage certificate (to Elizabeth Anne Willis, 25.04.1894 - West Derby) that his father's name was Robert Jones, carpenter, deceased. His birthplace is given as Bangor on the censuses I've found, but beyond that I'm going round in circles with so many Robert Joneses and no middle name to differentiate them. I'm thinking I need to access birth / baptism information, although as I'm relatively inexperienced at this, I'd love any hints as to where else I might look. I live in Australia so can't visit the area in person. Can anyone help me?
Margaret

[Cas (stallc)]

This family is a possibility

1871 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V51S-Q9Q

If you scroll to item 'j' on link it includes block maker with joiner and carpenter, I would say this includes all of UK. http://portsmouthdockyard.org.uk/Craft%20Trades.pdf

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

Same family 1851 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVK-52B

1861 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7LF-WGK

1881- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-V3S3

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

Some areas to help locate birth/bapt

Free to search has mothers maiden name https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

https://familysearch.org/search

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Cas

[Glynm]

Hi
You state that Robert was a mariner and as such it would be expected he had a Masters or Mates Certificate. I have searched Welshmariners.org and Ancestry's collection using "Robert Jones" born Bangor 1865-1867 and cannot find a match which may indicate one of the parameters I have used is incorrect. What are the details of the census record you found?

Glyn

[Jonesey2]

Hi Glyn,

On his marriage certificate he is a 'mariner', and on the 1911 and 1901 censuses he is a 'seaman'. The 1911 census has 'Merchant Service' added. The citation refs for the censuses are 1911 - Class: RG14; Piece: 22258; and 1901 - Class: RG13; Piece: 3426; Folio: 91; Page: 32. These are both Ancestry.com refs. I've looked for some merchant navy documentation too, and have found a few Robert Joneses from Caernarvon. I wondered if he was one of these. It's handy having his signature on the 1911 census, but I didn't feel confident enough about any that I found to assign it to my Robert Jones. Thank you so much for replying and helping - much appreciated.

Margaret

[Jonesey2]

This family is a possibility

1871 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V51S-Q9Q

If you scroll to item 'j' on link it includes block maker with joiner and carpenter, I would say this includes all of UK. http://portsmouthdockyard.org.uk/Craft%20Trades.pdf

Cas

Hi Cas,

Thank you for all this information. I didn't realise about the trade of blockmaker. This could very well be my family. It certainly ticks a lot of boxes. It would be nice to find a few ancestors with less common names - if this is the right family that gives me three generations of Robert and Anne Jones marriages in a row! Your help is much appreciated.

Margaret