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Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« on: Tuesday 13 June 17 20:36 BST (UK) »
Greetings.  I am a first time poster, and delighted to find your site.
I have begun to research my family on my father's father side for a month or so. I knew almost nothing, but now am hip deep in distant Cousins, uncles aunts and so on!.  I have hit somewhat of a brick wall however, with my Great Great Grandfather, Stephen Pinder.  I cannot seem to find any information on his parents, if he had brother's or sisters, etc.  I did find a document pointing to a John Pinder being his father and a Mary Pinder, but I am not confident it's the same Stephen Pinder.   

This is the information I have been able to gather so far.
Date of Birth. Judging by British or Canadian census records, he was born anywhere between 1795 and 1806. Also, a "Yorkshire, Archbishop of York Marriage licences index" (Marriage to Mary Ann Coulson) has him born in 1810 while another one (Marriage to Mary Ann Clough, more on that further down), has him born in 1805.
His place of birth is listed as Kilham, and the Parish is Bridlington.
He married in 1835 a Mary Ann Coulson  (B1806 in North Burton, Yorkshire). The place of marriage  is listed as Saint John and Saint Martin,Beverley,York,England.  Together, they had 5 children + 1* (John, Matilda, Elizabeth, Maria & Bennison) + *1 =  Adelaide Clough . Adelaide seems to be the daughter of Mary Ann Clough. From a different father, or perhaps from Stephen Pinder prior to his marriage with Mary Ann Coulson? Other records have her born in Scotland.
He seemed to have resided in Rudston or Hilderthorpe till he emigrated to Ontario, Canada in the early 1850's.

Within the Coulson family tree, Mary Ann Coulson's grandfather, Stephen Bennison, married a Mary   Pinder . I thought there might be a link there somehow, and attempted to circle around via Mary, but I could not find anything on her as well. I also noticed a fair number of Pinders in the Rudston area, but again, could not come up with anything substantial. (Also the use of Bennison as a given name in the Pinder family is rather strange.. I suspect a link here).

If anyone has any information or could assist, I would be delighted to hear from you.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 21:49 BST (UK) »
Hi

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Stephen Pinder born Kilham on 5th December 1803 baptised 6th December 1803

Parents: John a yeoman and farmer and by Mary his wife.

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Re: Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 21:55 BST (UK) »

At Kilham

John Pinder a bachelor and yeoman married Mary Clark spinster both of Kilham on 24 October 1801 by licence.
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
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Re: Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 22:07 BST (UK) »

Other children of John & Mary Pinder baptised at Kilham

Elizabeth born 11 Dec. 1811 Bapt. 12 Dec. 1811

John born 14 June 1802 Bapt. 15 June 1802

Mary born and Bapt. 26 July 1809

Samuel Bapt. 4 March 1816

William born 5 Feb 1806 Bapt. 8 Feb 1806






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Re: Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 22:16 BST (UK) »

From a transcript of the marriage licence issued to Stephen Bennison and Mary Pinder are these details

He was 40
She was 25
Both resident in Thwing.

Stephen Bennison bachelor married Mary Pindar both of the parish, by licence on 7 June 1783.

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Re: Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 22:39 BST (UK) »

Possible Mary Bennison burial in Thwing suggests a birth year of 1761

Buried 20th Oct. 1844 aged 83.

Two baptisms stick out - one in Gt. Driffield 19 Dec. 1762 daughter of John Pinder.

The other in Kilham - 20th May 1761 daughter of John Pinder.

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Re: Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 01:11 BST (UK) »
Together, they had 5 children + 1* (John, Matilda, Elizabeth, Maria & Bennison)

You have left out Mary who was born 1840.

PINDER, MARY
Mother's Maiden Name: COULSON
GRO Reference: 1840  M Quarter in BRIDLINGTON UNION  Volume 23  Page 20

1851 census

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG12-1KZ

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Re: Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 11:52 BST (UK) »
Blimey.. I want to thank you so much.. This is a great way to start the day.  I did come across the possibility that's Stephen's parents were a John and Mary, but had nothing to substantiate that information. Once again, thanks. Also, my suspicions about the name Bennison turned out to be true. Now I wonder if the Mary Pinder(ar) who married Stephen Bennison is from the same Pinder branch?


Oh, and yes, I forgot about Mary.. my bad.

This whole family exploration has been an incredible journey so far. I have been extremely fortunate to have in my possession some old family letters dating back to 1851. I never gave them much though, and everyone in the family pretty much forgot about them, sitting in a shoe box. They were faded, the writing difficult to read ... but they have become not only a source of information, but more importantly putting a human touch to the whole endeavor. These were remarkable people.
Well, I'm going on a bit too much here.. Lol  I cannot thank you both enough!

I will be back, I find your site remarkable.

All the best

Stephen Pinder

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Re: Stephen Pinder (B1797 or 1803)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 12:24 BST (UK) »

Glad we could help :)

Back to John Pindar - Stephens father. On the transcript of the marriage licence he was 48 years old - Mary his wife to be was 20 years younger. I'm wondering if he may have knocked a few years off this - it suggests a birth c1753.

There is a burial in Kilham on 3rd Dec. 1823 of a John Pindar aged 74 - birth year now 1749.

In Kilham in 1749 on 19th January a John Pindar was baptised to a JOHN Pindar.

If Mary Pindar who married Mr Bennison was born in Kilham 1761 - it's possible she was John Pindars sister :)
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk