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Sourcing a tree found online?
« on: Tuesday 20 June 17 15:08 BST (UK) »
It is my normal practice to "just google" people in my tree; you never
know what archive/record/discussion google knows about that I don't.

I have been digging back in a family line of "Ringer"s, and google fell upon this:

http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/o/w/Mike-Howes/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0302.html

Now my research have given me solid sources for SOME of the information on that page (and successor generations), which gives me every reason to believe that the tree creator
is not just making stuff up.

But...

Not only was the last update to the tree in 2008, but "Mike Howes" (when I looked him up) died back in 2015, aged 72.

So - can anybody suggest what source(s) he found to extend his knowledge of the Ringers of Shottisham, Frostenden, Mettingham?

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Re: Sourcing a tree found online?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 15:19 BST (UK) »
If you click on sources, doesn't that give a list of where he got his information. Also by clicking on the blue numbers next to the names

eg  John Ringer, b. 1753, Forncett St Peter7424, 7425, d. date unknown.

Clicking on 7424 gives  MJN Howes.FTW, Date of Import: 25 Jan 2007.
                 7425. MIKECELIAFAMILYHISTORY.FTW, Date of Import: 25 Jan 2007.

Looks as if he may have used a lot of on line trees plus Ancestry.

Is that what you mean?
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Re: Sourcing a tree found online?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 15:24 BST (UK) »
If you click on sources, doesn't that give a list of where he got his information. Also by clicking on the blue numbers next to the names

eg  John Ringer, b. 1753, Forncett St Peter7424, 7425, d. date unknown.

Clicking on 7424 gives  MJN Howes.FTW, Date of Import: 25 Jan 2007.
                 7425. MIKECELIAFAMILYHISTORY.FTW, Date of Import: 25 Jan 2007.

Looks as if he may have used a lot of on line trees plus Ancestry.

Is that what you mean?

Yes - and no. The "sources" seem to be simply uploads from (I assume) his own PC resident research master tree. (I just googled and learnt that ".FTW" is the file extension for Family Tree Maker)

MJN Howes, "Mike Howes" are the same person, and Celia is his wife.

I'm tracking to track/guess the real sources.

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Re: Sourcing a tree found online?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 21:43 BST (UK) »
Hi BugBear

All three branches of Suffolk Record Office hold copies of the PR's for those places.

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Re: Sourcing a tree found online?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 21:54 BST (UK) »
eg  John Ringer, b. 1753, Forncett St Peter7424, 7425, d. date unknown.

Clicking on 7424 gives  MJN Howes.FTW, Date of Import: 25 Jan 2007.
                 7425. MIKECELIAFAMILYHISTORY.FTW, Date of Import: 25 Jan 2007.

Looks as if he may have used a lot of on line trees plus Ancestry.

An FTW is a backup file of a tree done on FTM (Family Tree Maker) so possibly someone has sent him a Gedcom of their tree which he has imported to his own tree & of course which isn't a source!

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Re: Sourcing a tree found online?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 June 17 14:31 BST (UK) »
The source page looked very repetitive, so I bashed it (crudely) with some perl.

There appear to be roughly 40 actual distinct sources.
(my perl is too rough and dirty to give an exact figure)

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