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John Jones (b circa 1841, Llanerfyl)
« on: Sunday 25 June 17 22:02 BST (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can help me locate the exact parents of the above gentleman, please. From his marriage in 1867 (not local) , it is known that his father was Thomas Jones, a farmer.
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Re: John Jones (b circa 1841, Llanerfyl)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 June 17 23:21 BST (UK) »
Llanfyllin was the registration district for births and between 1840-1842 there were over 30 birth registrations for John Jones

Have you looked for him on the 1851 Welsh census?

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Re: John Jones (b circa 1841, Llanerfyl)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 June 17 07:43 BST (UK) »
I have - unfortunately, not knowing anything about the area meant that I couldn't work out whether something was reasonable or not. The 'grandson' seems possible. I suppose he might not have been born in 1841.
Owen , Parry , Pritchard, Foulkes  o Llanddeiniolen
Jones, Bellis o Sir Fflint
Williams o Beaumaris
Chambers o Dulyn
Rowlands o Tywyn

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Re: John Jones (b circa 1841, Llanerfyl)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 13:15 BST (UK) »
Hello Huwcyn,
Do you have any information as to where Thomas and John were living at the time of the marriage - it might be useful to know who he married  ( and where ) as well.
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Re: John Jones (b circa 1841, Llanerfyl)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 13:26 BST (UK) »
He married a Margaret Jones on the 4th of Jan 1867, in Llanarmon (Eifionydd).
He was living there (Chwilog) at the time of his marriage.
His father is given as Thomas Jones, farmer. Since he was a railway worker, I assume he'd moved away from home by this time.
Owen , Parry , Pritchard, Foulkes  o Llanddeiniolen
Jones, Bellis o Sir Fflint
Williams o Beaumaris
Chambers o Dulyn
Rowlands o Tywyn

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Re: John Jones (b circa 1841, Llanerfyl)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 18:01 BST (UK) »
the John who was grandson to Thomas & Mary Isaac would be appear to be the son of Hugh & Jane Jones

1841 Dolaneg, Dolwar HO107/1435/2 folio 5 pg 3
Hughe Jones 25 ag lab
Jane 25
Jane 4
John 1
all born in county, also Thomas & Mary Isaac are on the same census page

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Hugh Jones married Jane Isaac 18 Feb 1837 Llanfihangel yng Ngwynfa

birth reg
John Jones march qtr 1840 Llanfyllin vol 27 pg 74 mmn Isaac

There is a Thomas Jones in Llanerfyl with son John, but a few years older than your John

1851 Hendy, Cenewyll, Llanerfyl HO107/2499 folio 141 pg 6
Thomas Jones head mar 44 farmer of 60 acres b. Garthbeibio
Jane wife 44
John son 15
Thomas son 12
Watkin son 9
Jane dau 5
Robert son 3
Catherine dau 1
all born Llanerfyl except Thomas senior

Thomas Jones married Jane Watkins 8 Aug 1828 in Llanerfyl

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John Jones (b circa 1841, Llanerfyl)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 18:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much. I'll check the name of John's children to see what they were, in case that gives a clue.
Owen , Parry , Pritchard, Foulkes  o Llanddeiniolen
Jones, Bellis o Sir Fflint
Williams o Beaumaris
Chambers o Dulyn
Rowlands o Tywyn

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Re: John Jones (b circa 1841, Llanerfyl)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 22:47 BST (UK) »
There is also :-
Thomas Jones H m 58
Elizabeth        w m  58
Jane               d u   29
David             s  u  24
John              s  u  20
Ellis               s  u  12
Anne             d  u  9
All at Brynmawr, Llanerfyl in1851 - no baptisms of a John to a Thomas in 1840/41
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