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Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« on: Monday 03 July 17 18:08 BST (UK) »
Ancestry search shows Alexander Copland born 1782-1845 Kirkgunzeon  ( think that is off someone's tree) having parents John Copland and Elizabeth Roan but I can't for the life of me find any record of a birth to those parents..either on Scotlandspeople or Family search..I have found 4 of their other children....Mary being my ancestor born 1789....so they did register births. A few people have him on their trees but no source.....HELP
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Re: Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 July 17 22:47 BST (UK) »
1841 has him aged 55 living in Kirkgunzeon - but although he was b Kirkcudbright - it does not necessarily mean he was born in Kirkgunzeon.  For example - 1851 shows wife Ann born Buittle.

In 1851 wife Ann is 66 and living with stepson Alexander and his family.   
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Re: Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 July 17 22:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole
Gentleman on Ancestry descends from Alexander and says the parents are John And Elizabeth and I am just trying to verify before I add Alexander to my tree
Karen
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Re: Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 July 17 23:09 BST (UK) »
Can you post the names/dates/places of the other children born please?

Could John have been married previously?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 July 17 23:24 BST (UK) »
Robert 1786
Mary 1789
John 1792
James 1794
All born to John Copland and Elizabeth(Betty) Roan in Kirkgunzeon

Didn't think about that Annie
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Re: Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 July 17 23:35 BST (UK) »
Have you been in touch with the person who's tree it is?

What was John's occupation?

Could Alexander have been born over the border?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 00:07 BST (UK) »
A tree on Ancestry shows his marriage in 1803 to Mary Ann McBain and her death in 1820 aged 39 having given birth to 9 children in 16yrs.  Birthyear approx 1781

It also shows Alexander died 1845 aged 63 - birthyear 1781/2.  Parents names would not be shown on an 1845 death entry so the tree owner needs to clarify where that info came from.  Perhaps it's from a Family Bible??

In 1841 Alexander is aged 55 and wife "Ann" is aged 50 and in 1851 Anne is as shown in my earlier reply which does not support a death in 1820 unless Alexander re-married.  FS has a possibility in 1830 to Anne Kissock but no mention of that by the tree owner

The 1851 shows her as "Stepmother"

I know none of the above helps with Alexander's parentage but does indicate that the tree info needs clarification
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Re: Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 09:54 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Annie and Carole
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Re: Help finding birth of Alexander Copland
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 18:45 BST (UK) »
I have just put a headstone up on Find A Grave, this is the transcript from the stone.
It may help clarify a few dates.
ERECTED
By Alex/r Copland Shoemaker.
In Memory of
Mary McBane his Spouse who
Was born February 12th 1781,and
died September 5th 1820,and also
their two sons,James who was born
July 30th 1806 and died December
23rd 1809 and Donald,who was born
October 17th 1813 and died
May 12th 1815.
Also of the above Alexander Copland
who died 19th February 1845 aged 63 years.
Also of Ann Kissock his wife died
10th January 1881 aged 96 years.

This link should take you to the page.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Copland&GSiman=1&GScid=2546075&GRid=183543227&

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