Author Topic: Colour Slide Negatives?  (Read 8906 times)

Offline jinks

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 875
  • Thomas Pye
    • View Profile
Colour Slide Negatives?
« on: Sunday 31 July 05 12:52 BST (UK) »
I have in my possession some colour slides
from the 1940s of a Wedding.
Most of the photographs of the Wedding are
in Black and White.

I wondered if it is possible to get photographs
from colour slides.

At the time you could view them through a
slide viewer.

If it is possible where would I take them?
A specialist photographic shop?

Jinks
Ashton Lancashire
Eccles Lancashire
Fletcher Lancashire
Harwood Church/Darwen
Jackson Staffordhire/Worcestershire
Jenkinson Cockerham
Marsden Hoghton Lancashire
Mercer Lancashire/Yorkshire
Pye Wyresdale
Singleton Lancashire
Swarbrick  Longridge
Watt Scotland/Lancashire

Offline PaulineJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,311
    • View Profile
Re: Colour Slide Negatives?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 July 05 13:01 BST (UK) »

The colours are likely to be very faded on the slides, and usually there is an odd cast to the colours.

Best to have them scanned in and the play with the colour balance before getting them printed.

Contact me by PM if you can get to Halifax to have them scanned here (unless you trust the post!)

Pauline
All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
======================================
We are not a search engine. We are human beings.

Offline PrueM

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,637
  • Please don't try to PM me :)
    • View Profile
Re: Colour Slide Negatives?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 July 05 13:16 BST (UK) »
Jinks, I agree with Pauline.  Many scanners have built in (or add on) slide scanning fittings these days, and it is a simple job to scan in the transparencies, adjust the colours if they have changed over time (usually the magenta/pink colour goes before the cyan and yellow do) and then make a nice new digital file, and print outs if you want.

Prue

Offline jinks

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 875
  • Thomas Pye
    • View Profile
Re: Colour Slide Negatives?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 31 July 05 13:17 BST (UK) »
Pauline

When you put them up to the light, they
are very bright.

I had not realised from the b/w photos that
all the bridesmaids dresses were different
colours.

The slides have been kept in a dark cupboard
in a box, so I don't know if this as helped
preserve them.

Jinks
Ashton Lancashire
Eccles Lancashire
Fletcher Lancashire
Harwood Church/Darwen
Jackson Staffordhire/Worcestershire
Jenkinson Cockerham
Marsden Hoghton Lancashire
Mercer Lancashire/Yorkshire
Pye Wyresdale
Singleton Lancashire
Swarbrick  Longridge
Watt Scotland/Lancashire


Offline jinks

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 875
  • Thomas Pye
    • View Profile
Re: Colour Slide Negatives?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 31 July 05 13:19 BST (UK) »
Prue

I never thought of scanning them?

Do you mean on a normal scanner?

I might try later.
Jinks
Ashton Lancashire
Eccles Lancashire
Fletcher Lancashire
Harwood Church/Darwen
Jackson Staffordhire/Worcestershire
Jenkinson Cockerham
Marsden Hoghton Lancashire
Mercer Lancashire/Yorkshire
Pye Wyresdale
Singleton Lancashire
Swarbrick  Longridge
Watt Scotland/Lancashire

Offline PrueM

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,637
  • Please don't try to PM me :)
    • View Profile
Re: Colour Slide Negatives?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 July 05 13:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Jinks,

That's what Pauline was suggesting; yes, a normal flatbed scanner will do, but for best results you need to have the built in slide scanning attachment.  When you scan a normal document or photo, the image is formed by having a light shine up from the scanner and reflect off the surface of the photo back down into the scanner, which forms a digital image.  With slides, the light has to be transmitted, i.e. it has to shine through the slide and down into the scanner - no reflection.  Apparently it's possible to use a fluro lamp or torch to shine through the slide from the top while operating the scanner normally, but I've not had very much success with this.

Dark storage of colour materials can help to preserve the dyes very well.  Sometimes though, they fade or change even in the dark!  Colour dyes are inherently unstable, so the sooner you can scan them, the better your images  will be.

Cheers

Prue

Offline Little Nell

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 11,799
    • View Profile
Re: Colour Slide Negatives?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 July 05 13:27 BST (UK) »
I have found as Prue says. I've scanned colour slides, but you need to have a light source from above rather than below.  The settings are also different (don't ask me how, I just select the corect setting for this) - the results are generally very good.  Admittedly the slides I have scanned have only been up to 30 years old, but always kept in the dark in a box.

Nell
All census information: Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline dennford

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,217
    • View Profile
Re: Colour Slide Negatives?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 July 05 13:41 BST (UK) »
Hi there
   When you say slides do you mean 35mm slides 0r 6x6 slides – 35mm are the same as our standard negatives of today while 6x6 are Quiet large by comparison – two and a quarter inches square and were quite common forty or fifty years ago, it is even possible that they could be 2 ¼ x 3 1/4 or larger.
   To get either done by a photo lab would be an expensive exercise. However if you can get them scanned or some kind person could scan them for you. try to have them scanned to a CD as a jpeg: A 35 mm slide would want scanning at 1200dpi to give a reasonable postcard sized print, while a 6x6 would want scanning at 600dpi to produce a reasonable 7 ½ inch square print.
   After scanning the image would then almost certainly need some rectifying, now I live in Australia so unless you can send a large file over the net it would be better if once again some kind soul there in England can offer to do such a job. However if you can send it as a jpeg file I am more than willing to have a look and see if I can do anything. Once adjusted all you need do is take the disc into your nearest digital shop for printing
   By the way please don’t build up your hopes too much because without seeing them first it is impossible to know weather or not they can be improved.

               All the best
                  Denn
Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire

Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol

Offline jinks

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 875
  • Thomas Pye
    • View Profile
Re: Colour Slide Negatives?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 July 05 15:48 BST (UK) »
I have just tried to scan one of the slides with
a light source above.

I fused the computer on the first attempt, I had
unplugged the wrong plug.( fuse changed every
thing OK)

I can not get any resemblance of the colours from
the slideto my scanner.

The bridesmaids dresses are yellow, pink and
lilac.
The Mother of the bride has pink accessories.
The Mother of the Groom has yellow accessories.

Ive just worked out the date 1940s ???
more like early 1960s.

The slides are two different sizes.
One has the words 'kodachrome transparency'
and can be wiewed on a Halina Viewer.
The other slides are much bigger and are glass?
with metal around the outside.
Size? If you count the cardboard around the
outside of the smaller ones. They are two inch
square.

Jinks
Ashton Lancashire
Eccles Lancashire
Fletcher Lancashire
Harwood Church/Darwen
Jackson Staffordhire/Worcestershire
Jenkinson Cockerham
Marsden Hoghton Lancashire
Mercer Lancashire/Yorkshire
Pye Wyresdale
Singleton Lancashire
Swarbrick  Longridge
Watt Scotland/Lancashire