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A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« on: Wednesday 05 July 17 16:02 BST (UK) »
In my tree I have a marriage between Ann Porter and Robert Womack; they had several children.
Robert then died, and Ann remarried, to one Thomas Newson.

I have found Thomas Newson's will, written in 26 Apr 1802, proved in 27 nov 1802 in the Norfolk Sources.

In it, he lists:

* Samuel Newson of Roydon, Farmer (no relationship stated)
* Two children, Thomas and William of his late brother William.
* Four Children (James, Mary, Thomas and "blank") of his brother James, a Weaver of North Lopham.

Clearly, with such a richly documented tree, I should have enough of a pattern to readily
find and recognise other documents.  :)

Nope.  ???

I have found Samuel Newson of Roydon; he shows nicely in a search of FreeReg;
He marries Mary Milton, 1789, has some children (Milton, Robert, Susan, Benjamin, Mary, Emma), and dies in 1806, aged 44 (so DOB around 1762).

I have not found any birth records for the 3 siblings Thomas, William and James, I have not found marriage records for William and James, and I have found none of William's and James' 6 children.
I haven't even found a burial for Thomas.

Can anyone do better?

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Re: A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 16:35 BST (UK) »
I think I've found the deceased William, father of William and Thomas.

He was married in Melton Constable (!!!!) to a Susanna Newell, 1796, and they
moved back to Roydon, Diss.

Children:
William bap sep1797, bur dec1797
Thomas bap1798
William bap1800
Mary Anne bap1801 (not mentioned in will, poor lass).

William, the father, died 1802, buried in Roydon, aged 31 (->DOB 1771)

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Re: A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 16:57 BST (UK) »
Courtesy of the BritishNewspaperArchive, I've found this truly fascinating piece of information:

The Ipswich Journal - Saturday 10 April 1802

"And also his son" No details at all.  ???

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Re: A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 18:14 BST (UK) »
Have you seen this? It *might* hold some clues.

Abstract of Administration of Samuel Newson, Farmer of Roydon, Norfolk
Reference: IR 26/392/351
Date: June 06 1806
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7238371
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson

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Re: A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 18:52 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure that newspaper item is entirely correct.

Burials - Roydon
12 Apr 1802
William Newson, aged 31 years [est b1771]
Marianne Newson, aged 7 months
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson

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Re: A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 18:54 BST (UK) »
Baptism - Diss
25 Nov 1770
William Newson
Father: Robert
Mother: -
Birth place: Palgrave
Denomination: Presbyterian

Edit: Added denomination
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson

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Re: A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 19:50 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure that newspaper item is entirely correct.

Burials - Roydon
12 Apr 1802
William Newson, aged 31 years [est b1771]
Marianne Newson, aged 7 months

Ah - that's a perfect fit with Mary Anne (or Marianne) being omitted from the will.

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Re: A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 19:51 BST (UK) »
Have you seen this? It *might* hold some clues.

Abstract of Administration of Samuel Newson, Farmer of Roydon, Norfolk
Reference: IR 26/392/351
Date: June 06 1806
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7238371

And it's in Norfolk Sources. I'll download it tomorrow.

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Re: A whole unfindable tree (shrub?) of Newsons!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 21:04 BST (UK) »
This could just be a coincidence but worth following up...

Baptism - Diss

02 Nov 1766
Richard Newson
Father: Robert
Mother: -
Birth place: Palgrave
Denomination: Presbyterian


Baptisms - Roydon

08 Mar 1763
Thomas Newson
Father: Robert
Mother: Susan

12 Sep 1774
Elizabeth Newson
Father: Robert
Mother: Susan

31 Aug 1775
Elizabeth Newson
Father: Robert
Mother: Susan
Note: child was born 11th? August last

31 Jan 1773
James Newson
Father: Robert
Mother: Susanna
Note: 7 weeks old

22 Mar 1778
George Newson
Father: Robert
Mother: Susanna


There are a number of burials which look to be of this family in Roydon and Diss.


Also, who's this William? Could he be related?

Will of William Newson of Diss , Norfolk
Reference: PROB 11/1790/305
Date: 01 September 1831
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D245448
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson