Robertson/Robinson

[Elizabeth Diana]

I have a problem trying to connect three men.
James Robertson/Robinson born abt. 1807 in Southgate, Middlesex.  My gg grandfather.
William Robertson/Robinson born 1809 in Southgate, Middlesex
Thomas Robinson born 1820 in Southgate, Middlesex.
Father a William for all and a Mary for William and Thomas.
Marriage cert. for James Robinson. Marries Kezia Beaton 1.3.1842 at St. Marys Islington.
Father William a Labourer.
Marriage Cert. for William and Sarah Susannah Wadkins 28.4.1840 in Shoreditch.
Father William deceased Farmer.
Marriage cert. for Thomas and Sarah Mayes 18.10.1846 at St. Marys, Islington.
Father William Gardener.

So Father William Robinson is alive in 1842 and 1846 but not it seems in 1840.  So surely William Robinson b. 1809 is not related to James 1807 and Thomas, 1820.

The Weld Chapel, Southgate feature in the lives of all men. 

1841 census  James and Thomas are Butchers and appear on the same Census.
1841 census for William.  He appears as a Beer Sellar living also in Southgate but on his marriage cert in 1840 he is a Butcher.

Its a puzzle that weeks of research are not solving.  I should be so happy if someone kind can help.

Thank you for reading the above.

[KGarrad]

So Father William Robinson is alive in 1842 and 1846 but not it seems in 1840.  So surely William Robinson b. 1809 is not related to James 1807 and Thomas, 1820.

Thew absence of the word "deceased" does not imply that William was alive at the time of these marriages?

It rather depends on the way the questions were asked by the vicar!

[jomcd967]

Hi Elizabeth Diana,

There are the following baptisms at Southgate Weld Chapel, all to a William and Mary:

Sarah Robertson bap 27 Dec 1801 - no occupation for father
William Robertson, bap 5 Feb 1804 - father a labourer
James Robertson, bap 2 Apr 1807 - no occ for father
William Robertson, bap 14 Aug 1809 - ditto
George Robertson, born 27 May 1815, bap 25 Jun 1815 - father a labourer
Charles Robertson, born 5 July 1818, bap 2 Aug 1818 - ditto

Sophia Roberts, born 24 Jun 1811, bap 4 Aug 1811 - ditto
Edward Roberts, bap 25 July 1815 - ditto

Thomas Robinson, born 11 Nov 1820, bap 10 Dec 1820 - ditto

William Robertson, b 1804, buried 19 Jun 1806, Edmonton South Weld Chapel

Jo 

[Elizabeth Diana]

Thank you for your help.  I shall see where this new information takes me.

Grateful to you both

Elizabeth Diana

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[Elizabeth Diana]

surfingpiglet      your reply is not there!!  nothing to read!!

[Ruskie]

Regarding the occupation anomaly of Butcher/Beer seller. I have often seen alcohol related 'occupations' alongside others such as Farmer and beer seller - it is not uncommon.