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Offline brianz

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Missing location
« on: Monday 10 July 17 14:04 BST (UK) »
I have a will dated 1813 for a William Hannam of Bermondsey London in which he has made various bequests. Two of these bequests are to his sister Ann Barker and his brother Richard Hannam both of Greenhill in the county of York. Below is a copy of part of the will, the problem I have is that I cannot find a location for Greenhill. The only one I found was near Norton in Sheffield, Can anyone help or suggest an alternative.

Survivors Upon Trust to sell and dispose of the same
as soon as conveniently may be after my decease and to pay out third
part of the money arising therefrom unto my Sister Ann Barker of
Greenhill in the County of York and the remaining two third parts thereof
unto my Brother Richard Hannam of Greenhill aforesaid And I direct
that the Receipt of my said Trustees and their Survivors shall be a sufficient

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Re: Missing location
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 July 17 14:31 BST (UK) »
There is a Greenhill which is part of Sheffield.

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Re: Missing location
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 July 17 14:32 BST (UK) »
From this page at GENUKI: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/G.html
it appears that there's a Greenhill in Bingley, though following the links through, it seems to be a single house: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Bingley/more.html

I wondered if there might be any part of Yorkshire where the surname Hannam was particularly common, so I had a look on FamilySearch. There were a lot of entries around Pateley Bridge, which made me wonder if it could be a misspelling of Greenhow Hill. This was mainly a lead-mining community.

There won't be many lead miners in Bermondsey, but I wonder if your William's occupation might give any clues to his origins and connections?
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Missing location
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 July 17 14:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks arthurk, the writing on the will is fairly clear (see extract) that is not to say Greenhow Hill is not a possibility. William whose will it is, is described as a Gentleman, I have been unable to find his occupation if in fact he had one. I would imagine that the family he had in York's moved up there.
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Re: Missing location
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 July 17 14:58 BST (UK) »
Hi, I searched for Richard Hannam and Greenhill.
Greenhill Chapel in Bradford Moor Yorkshire.
His address was 5 Greenhill Street.
May be earlier years it was just Greenhill.
Looked for Ann who had the married name Baker, no results.
That's the closest I got.
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Re: Missing location
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 July 17 15:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maggsie. That's great I was beginning to wonder if he existed, now I know he did and Ann cannot be far behind.
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Re: Missing location
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 July 17 15:17 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Just found............
John Barker, ooops I put Baker.
John must have married Ann, John was a clerk to Richard and Richard was an Attorney, in Mattersey Nottinghamshire in 1800.
Still can't find the marriage.
Are you in Ancestry?
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Re: Missing location
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 July 17 16:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maggsie.
                        Now I really am confused, I know the Richard you are referring too very well and he was never to my knowledge living in Bradford Moor and I have a fairly complete picture of his life.

He belongs to another  tree of mine that I am trying to link to. He did however indenture one John Barker as a Clerk in Feb 1800. What date was the info about Richard living at Greenhill? The problem with our family is that we have  too many Richards and Williams

I do have Ancestry and also FindMyPast
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Re: Missing location
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 July 17 16:29 BST (UK) »
Ah yes, too many repeats of the same name. I have the same trouble.
This Richard's father was Davis William Hannam, this Richards marriage n 1926, this was the Greenhill Street records. Just noticed above there was another record showing a lady in Greenhill House in the same town.
Maggsie