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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 16 July 17 12:33 BST (UK) »
There is a Robert Griffiths Dec 1894 Swansea Vol 11A page 971 mother's maiden name Holmes

He may have acquired the 'Henry' after registration, have you found any 'Holmes' visitors on census?

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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 16 July 17 12:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb,

If he died in Llwynypia hospital that would be the Rhondda area. He is not buried in a near local cem (Trealaw) try contact library at Pontypridd or Aberdare (Google for info) to see if burial record is within local area. They are very helpful. Pontypridd reg district covered a large area.


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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 16 July 17 17:56 BST (UK) »
Hi

LLwynypia is in Rhondda Fawr( Big) Maerdy is in Rhondda Fach (small)  There is a cemetary close by called Penrhys  close to  Ystrad Rhondda or it could be Treorchy Cemetary at the top of the Rhondda Valley
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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 02:01 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Going by the attestation info, Robert states he is 19yr 1 month old at end December 1892 and gives a birth year of 1873.

This may be a complete red herring, but the only one to come up Dec Q 1873 with names Robert Henry is this one. As mentioned he may not have been registered.

BYRON, ROBERT  HENRY  Mmn     GRIFFITHS     
GRO Reference: 1873  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 669

Not finding a Byron/Griffiths marriage for parents, death or census for the above, within area or timeframe.

Just a thought for the maybe list. Not a lot with surname Byron in Swansea or surrounding area.

Who were the witness on marriage cert and what was his address? It may help.

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Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 08:20 BST (UK) »
In case it helps there is another birth reg for Byron mmn Griffiths

BYRON, ELIZABETH  JANE     mmn GRIFFITHS     
1871  March Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 635

I can't see the family anywhere either  ::)
 
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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 17:21 BST (UK) »
details from the marriage 23 Sept 1895 in the parish church of Ystradyfodwg, address for bride and groom given as 48 Pentre Road, Mardy. Margaret Jane's father noted as Henry Williams, collier, Robert Henry's as Robert Griffiths, collier, deceased.  Witnesses David Davies & Margaret Daniel who both made their mark.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 17:36 BST (UK) »
1891 census
48 Pentre Road RG12/4430 folio 109 pg 55
Robert Griffiths head mar 45 coal miner b. Aberystwyth, Cards
Sarah wife 49 b. Aberystwyth
+ 3 lodgers

1881 census Druid Village, Melindwr, Cards RG11/5449 folio 44 pg 6
Robert Griffiths head mar 35 lead miner
Sarah wife 40
Robert H son 8
all born Melindwr


Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 18:16 BST (UK) »
if this is Robert senior's death reg, he was recently deceased  at the time of the marriage

Robert Griffiths 50 sept qtr 1895 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 280

Possible marriage
Robert Griffiths march qtr 1875 Aberystwyth vol 11b pg 77 with Sarah Howells on the same page

But if this is family, why does Robert Henry say he was born in Swansea if he was born in Cardiganshire?

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Robert Henry Griffiths
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 12 January 19 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I finally got around to ordering Robert's birth certificate - to explore the Byron possibility. It states his dob as 23/11/1873 which matches up with his attestation. His mother is named as Margaret Byron nee Griffiths and father George Byron.  They lived at 20 well street Swansea.
Problem is I can't find any other records to prove this theory, only one I can find is a poor/work house entry for a George   Byron on his own dob 1828 from Well Street. Would you recommend any other avenue to explore? I cannot find any of them on the 1881 census, no marriage etc. There is a Margaret Daniels detailed on Roberts marriage certificate  but I can't find a link.

Thanks in advance!