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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 22 July 17 14:14 BST (UK) »
Here's the 1880,Ruskie:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXVD-DBX

I was wondering about the newspaper article as well.

Is there a chance that Bessie and Ivy never went to NZ but somehow some family photos ended up there? Odd.

Maureen

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 22 July 17 14:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maureen. So John Vickery was born around 1826 in Devon.  :-\

The Vickerys seem to have favoured small families.  :)

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 23 July 17 09:57 BST (UK) »
We are assuming it is an article from a NZ newspaper, perhaps it isn't  :-\

Very good point.

Alan, is there anything identifiable on the newspaper clipping, even on the reverse? Anything which gives a clue as to where it is published?

No I am pretty sure that they were resident in the UK, I think that the Beale link is a dead end and am thinking that the Hudson link is what should be followed. I have been in touch with the only "Beale" family living locally, she is the widow and does not think any of the photos come from her husbands side.  Local history doesn't throw up any Beales though. Plenty of Hudsons, as mentioned in my last post there are 7 separate Hudson families still in the  district and they seem to have come here in the mid 1850s.

It would  also appear that the later coloured pictures that went up on the second post are a separate lot from the ones posted first. We have located the owners of those locally, they were lost when they moved house and they apparently donated some furniture to the local Op Shop so it is possible that  there are more 'families' involved than we were first advised.

I will check the back of the cutting tomorrow as it is with the pictures at the Museum
Thanks for the work that you have all been doing,

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 23 July 17 11:13 BST (UK) »
This is the clipping from the paper, no indication as to were it is published but am beginning to think it may be an American paper. The quote 'going to Dwight Illinois' if published in a paper from outside the states would have read "Dwight Illinois USA" ??

Here is a copy of the cutting.

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 23 July 17 11:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you Alan,
I would agree with your comment on USA being added if out of that Country.  I think we just presumed it was a NZ paper as that was where you were posting from.  ;D

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 23 July 17 11:59 BST (UK) »
I see the De Lorenzi photo studio that took the quoted picture is still in operation.

http://delorenziphotography.com/index.html
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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 23 July 17 13:19 BST (UK) »
If the Hudson families which you think there may be a connection with came to NZ in the 1850s, there are many years between then and the 1920s, 30s, 40s or whenever this newspaper article appeared.

I think you may be correct in thinking it was from an American newspaper - it presumes some knowledge of American cities. If from a NZ paper it is likely to have just said "America" or "Illinois, America."

Any chance of seeing the photo? It might help with dating.  :-\

(I note the article says Miss Ivy Beale, not Mrs Ivy Beale as per your first post)

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 23 July 17 14:08 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Dr. Charles R Vickery died on 10 October 1936, so the newspaper article would obviously be before this date.

His death cert states the informant was his wife, Myrtle W Vickery, and that his father was John Vickery born England and his mother was Mary Staley born New York.  His date of birth is shown as 15 June 1870 (birth date on passport application was 15 June 1871).  He died at South Bend Indiana and was buried in Dwight, Illinois.
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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 23 July 17 14:25 BST (UK) »
Could it be where they were going when they left England in 1924  :-\

Bessie & Ivy left Southampton 6 June 1924 bound for Quebec/Montreal on board the Antonia
Address Pen-Tavy, Tavistock

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