Searching records for Patrick Kearns & Margaret Griffith Dundee Angus Scotland

[MonicaL]

How about this entry for 1841:

Patrick Kerins 45 Canvas H L W (hand loom weaver) b. Ireland
Margaret Kerins 40 b. Ireland
Mary Kerins 20 mill worker b. Ireland
Patrick Kerins 11 b. Ireland
Margaret Kerins 7
John Kerins 1
Agnes Kerins 1

Address: Milln East Wynd, Dundee

Monica

PS: Agnes and Ann (and Nancy) is a common name variant. See www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=agnes

[Katsy8]

Thanks Bev John & Anne are both listed 1840 birth as same date but definitely food for thought.
Will download original from scotlands people 

[Katsy8]

Thanks Monica will check originals as Anne could be Agnes Anne
Many thanks
Kat

[Katsy8]

Monica's tip shows Both John & Ann were baptised on the 28 th April 1840 but no further clues there in the original, could they be of different birth years?
Will check the 1841 census as that looks promising too.
Many thanks again.

[MonicaL]

RC records can be harder to find pre the start of official registration in Scotland from 1855. Scotlands People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk do have some RC parish records. From the general index there, can't see Mary's entry but there are some siblings (twins) showing:

John and Ann CAIRNS -  parents PATRICK CAIRNS/MARGARET GRIFFITH
b. 28/4/1840 and bpt. 29/4/1840 at Dundee, St Andrew's

John and Ann showing as born on 28 April 1840 and baptised the following day.

Monica

[bevj]

Thanks Bev John & Anne are both listed 1840 birth as same date but definitely food for thought.
Will download original from scotlands people 

Since John is listed as a daughter, it could be just a bad transcription.  I think it is definitely the right family.

Bev

[Katsy8]

Bev your tip on the 1850 census proved most fruitful. The surname came up with the surname Sterwin,but all the pieces seemed to fit. From that I found the death of Patrick in 1855 as Kirnes ,in Scolates Hull. And it also led to a sister Elizabeth Danby nee Smith & daughter,sister to James Smith who was also on the census married to Mary.It also provided a birth for Mary in Sligo so now I know why I couldn't find her on the Scottish registers.
Am most apprecive to you & Monica.Im now trying to follow up Monica's 1840 Irish census.
Many thanks to you both.
Cheers
Kat

[MonicaL]

Sounds like you are making great headway, Kat 

Monica