Susannah Beagley (née Watkins) b. ca. 1801, Farringdon

[trish1120]

SAMUEL Beagley christened 23 March 1806   Farringdon, Southampton, England
Parents THOS/MARY

MARRIAGE;
Samuel BEAGLEY, Widower, Bricklayer, Father THOMAS, Bricklayer
Sammerazin LUCAS, Spinster, Father THOMAS, Customs House Officer
19 May 1850
St John the Evangelist, Lambeth
Witnesses, William Thomas and Charlotte Beagley

So Looks like Susannah died between 1841-1851

[MacGrigor]

Yes it does. This is confusing.

[trish1120]

Dont worry I was also to start with until I found the Marriage.

People have added that Sammerzin is Susannah on 1851 Census but the name is hard to read.

As lizdb said dont follow others Trees as they lead you astray.

SUMMARY;

From 1851 Census in Berkshire that is your SAMUEL

Christening 1806 is correct I would say to THOS/MARY

1841 Census is correct;
Samuel Beagley   35
Susannah Beagley 40
William Beagley   16
Helen Beagley   10
Fredy Beagley   10
Charlotte Beagley 8
Catharine Beagley 6
George Beagley   4
Samuel Beagley   2

Samuel 1839's GRO Birth Reg has hsi Mother nm as WATKINS

[MacGrigor]

Thanks very much for your help Trish. The baptism record for Samuel's daughter (through whom I am descended) gives the mother as Susannah, although the family lived across the Thames then.

[trish1120]

MORE;

1861 Census
Camberwell
Ann Payne, 52, Head, Widow, Laundress, born S??, Hertfordshire
Jane Payne, 19, Daug
Emma Payne, 14, Daug
Samuel Beagley   22, Nephew, Bricklayer, born Camberwell*****
John S Beagley, 19, Nephew, Bricklayer, born Camberwell*****

** image is John T Beagley


1851 Census
Joseph Payne, 42
Ann Payne, 41, born St Minver, Herefordshire*****
Jane Payne, 9
Emma Payne, 4

The Marriage of Ann WATKINS and Joseph PAYNE is on Anc 1838
Her Father is JOHN Watkins, Labourer, deceased*****

So Susannahs Father would be JOHN Watkins.

As Susannah is not on 1851 Census we have no POB for her
Sammerzin LUCAS is born Faversham. Kent, Samuels 2nd Wife

OK JOHN THOMAS Beagleys Baptism is on Anc 1842 and his Parents are SAMUEL/SUSANNAH

Oh, he married his Cousin! Jane PAYNE 1864

[MacGrigor]

So....

Susannah was born in Herefordshire also? To John Watkins?

[trish1120]

Its late here in Australia so I must go to bed.
Day off tomorrow so I will work on this again later in the day.

Look at all I have posted and  necessary write it out in a chart (which I do to make sense of it)

So we need a Baptism for Ann WATKINS who married Joseph Payne.
She would have to have a Sister Susannah!

Here she is 1871 with John Thomas Beagley

Ann Payne   62 born Herefordshire
Jan Thos Boughey 28
Jane Boughey   22
Rosa Emma Boughey   5
Harry Jno Boughey   3
Jessie Ann Boughey   1
Saml Geor Boughey   4 Months

Hows that for a mistranscription

[trish1120]

So replies crossed, yes Susannah Watkins has to be Ann PAYNE, nee Watkins Sister,
as the Beagley boys are her Nephews in 1861 Census.

So yes her Father would be John Watkins.
Whether she was born Herfordshire or not we wont know until we find Watkins Baptisms.

[trish1120]

Got to go to bed!

FreeBMD;
Deaths Dec 1847
Beagley,  Susannah,  Lambeth, 4    208

GRO Index;
BEAGLEY, SUSANNAHm age 47******
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 208

So she was born c 1800 and Ann c 1809