Author Topic: Mary Jane Clement (Parker)  (Read 7882 times)

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Re: Mullato
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:17 BST (UK) »
Findagrave has an expanded entry for Henry Parker . You would need to check all the relationships to your own satisfaction :

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=176889547&ref=acom

Note that Walton Park Cemetery is in Liverpool , not Lancaster as stated.
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Re: Mullato
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosi99 that would make her 14 at marriage. Shes at home on census at 17 unmarried.
KGarrad the babtism is correct.
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Re: Mullato
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:23 BST (UK) »
Christine53:
This is where it gets sticky. There is another Henry Parker a Seaman who dies at sea off Lizard Point in 1881. Hes also married to an Elizabeth ( probably Harrocks).  This could well be him but if the census was March how does she know shes a widow before his death?
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Re: Mullato
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:24 BST (UK) »
Just to go back a stage at a time;  Here is 1871

Henry Parker 33 seaman bn America
Elizabeth 27 bn Liverpool
Mary Ann 7
Lizzie 5
Phoebe 1
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Mary Jane Clement (Parker)
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:25 BST (UK) »
11 Jul 1858 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire
Henry Parker  full age Mariner, Bachelor, Clement St.
Elizabeth Harrocks minor, Spinster, Clement St.
Groom's Father John Parker, Mariner
Bride's Father Samuel Harrocks, Labourer
Witnesses Asberry Wansley, Mary Hughes,
Married by Licence by: Henry Brooks, Curate

Sorry Liz - I saw red message but posted it anyway.  It gives a bit more to compare
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Re: Mullato
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:25 BST (UK) »
Well Ive explored Harrocks but find them both living past 1881. In 1881 cencus Elizabeth is a widow and in 1880 namws her newborn Henrietta (In name of dead father?)
They are in Eccles Street 1871 and then Elizabeth is there till 1991.
The Harrocks line was a strong contender but dates dont fit. Still suspicious as all 3 streets involved are next to each other in old Liverpool near docks.

Diane, the 1871 census shows that Henry was born in the US and he is a seaman. Also, Mary Jane Parker with mmn Horrocks is the only one born in Liverpool that year.

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Re: Mullato
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:26 BST (UK) »
Marriage details from LAN-OPC:

Marriage: 11 Jul 1858 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Henry Parker - (X), full, Mariner, Bachelor, Clement St.
Elizabeth Harrocks - (X), minor, Spinster, Clement St.
    Groom's Father: John Parker, Mariner
    Bride's Father: Samuel Harrocks, Labourer
    Witness: Asberry Wansley, (X); Mary Hughes, (X)

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Re: Mullato
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:31 BST (UK) »
Is it normal to have such wildly different dates? The census places Elizabeth Parker born 1844 and Henry 1838 for 2 census 10 years apart. I have gone with these dates in the absence of birth certificates. The Harrocks line are born earlier in 1838. Doesnt fit. But so close!
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Re: Mullato
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:38 BST (UK) »
Is it normal to have such wildly different dates? The census places Elizabeth Parker born 1844 and Henry 1838 for 2 census 10 years apart. I have gone with these dates in the absence of birth certificates. The Harrocks line are born earlier in 1838. Doesnt fit. But so close!

I don't understand what you mean here.

On the 1871 and 1881 census Elizabeth Parker (Harrocks) is born 1844 and Henry 1838.

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