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Which Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts?
« on: Wednesday 09 August 17 00:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have the following: -

Benjamin Hodgetts (1794 - 28 February 1869 in Cradley) married to Sarah Read daughter of Isaac Read (Christened on 27 April 1794 - died on 29 April 1868) on 31 December 1820 at Oldswinford, Worcestershire.

Their children were: -

Ann (1820 - 1820)
Sarah (1820 - ?)
William (1821 - 1892)
Mary Ann (1825 - 1881)
Caroline (1827 - 1884)
Edward (1830 - 1906)
Henry (1831 - 1892)
Matilda (1833 - 1917)
Ellen (1836 - 1841)

Benjamin was the father of my ancestor Edward Hodgetts who was baptised on 14 March 1830 at St John's, Halesowen - died on 23 March 1906. Edward married Maria Beasley-Cox (1827 - 1892) on 6 March 1848 at St. Thomas, Dudley.

The above information was provided to me by my late God mother who passed away in 1986.

Now I'm seeing other family trees on Ancestry.com having Sarah Hill (1796 - 1868) marrying Benjamin Hodgetts at Clent on 16 April 1815 as well as marrying Sarah Read!

As I've lost my original family tree when the old hard drive of our 1998 PC broke down so I'm starting over again.

Hoping someone on here is able to confirm which Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts with evidence to back up?

Thanks



 


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Re: Which Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 August 17 01:24 BST (UK) »
There are two marriages of Benjamin Hodgett to a Sarah:

16 Apr 1815 Clent, Benjamin Hodgetts & Sarah Hill
Added:  There may be more information on the original image, which can be viewed at a Family History Centre: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kio/

31 Dec 1820 Birmingham, St Martin
Benjamin Hodgetts Bachelor otp & & Sarah Read Spinster opt
Wit: Ann Hodgetts & Thomas Alderthee
All made their mark (X)

The first two children you mentioned were baptised before the second marriage took place, so presumably do not belong to Sarah Read:

02 Apr 1820 Cradley, Ann - died/ buried 24 Dec 1820
02 Apr 1820, Cradley, Sarah

At least one other child in your list possibly does not belongs to Sarah Read
02 Dec 1821 Halesowen, William
09 Jan 1825 Halesowen, Mary Ann
03 Sep 1827 Cradley, Caroline
14 Mar 1830 Halesowen, Edward
31 Jul 1831 Halesowen, Henry
07 Jul 1833 Halesowen, Matilda
13 Mar 1836 Halesowen, Ellen

If you are certain that 'your' Benjamin is the one having children in Halesowen, then he may not be the one who died 1869 in Cradley.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Which Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 August 17 02:21 BST (UK) »
Hmmm, I’ve just checked the census and see that Caroline (baptised Cradley) is with the rest of the family in Cradley in 1841, and that in later census Benjamin also gives his PoB as Cradley. 

The NBI has a burial in Cradley on 31 Dec 1816 of a Sarah Hodgetts aged 20, which could potentially be Sarah Hill if Ann & Sarah were baptised as infants rather than babies and the 1820 marriage shows Benjamin as a bachelor in error  :-\

I think a viewing of the original Clent and Cradley registers is the only thing that may sort this one out  :-\
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Which Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 August 17 10:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Jomot,

Thank you for having a look... And I will need to go to a Family Centre to view those images on that link you have provided. Hoping there is a Family History Centre in Coventry?

I don't know if the below is a strange coincidence, as was looking up a Phoebe Gauden after reading a post on this forum, or if it is the same Sarah Hill, which I think it is?: -

Looking at my scribbled notes, I have a Thomas Hill (1773 - ?) marrying Phoebe Gauden (1776 - ?) on 9 June 1794 at Oldswinford.

Children:-

Sarah (1794 - June 1868)
John Thomas (1796 - 1876) Unsure if this is one of their children as I added in afterwards?
William (1797 - ?)
Thomas (1799 - 1872)
John (1803 - 1883)
Benjamin (1805 - ?)
Priscilla (1809 - ?)
Sarah (1812 - ?)
Joseph (1815 - ?)
Anne (18 Oct 1818 - ?) She married William Guest on 29 November 1846 at Clent.
Henry (1821 - ?)



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Re: Which Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 August 17 10:49 BST (UK) »
Hmmm, I’ve just checked the census and see that Caroline (baptised Cradley) is with the rest of the family in Cradley in 1841, and that in later census Benjamin also gives his PoB as Cradley. 

The NBI has a burial in Cradley on 31 Dec 1816 of a Sarah Hodgetts aged 20, which could potentially be Sarah Hill if Ann & Sarah were baptised as infants rather than babies and the 1820 marriage shows Benjamin as a bachelor in error  :-\

I think a viewing of the original Clent and Cradley registers is the only thing that may sort this one out  :-\

Ah! I get you as there is a possibility that this Sarah Hill died at childbirth in 1818 and Benjamin marries Sarah Read afterwards?

I have the Registers of Cradley Chapel, Worcestershire (Now St. Peter's Parish Church, Cradley) 1785 - 1839 orange book but this does not show burials after December 1812 and a note at the bottom of the page that this register continued in a new book appointed by Act of Parliament. The entries in it commence January 1st, 1813. Thomas Best - Perpetual Curate.

Where would I be able to have access to Clent Registers and also to continue with the new Cradley Registers book? Could I buy them online?

Thanks

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Re: Which Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 August 17 15:42 BST (UK) »
You could probably buy transcripts but to be certain you have every scrap of detail I think you'd be better off viewing the originals online at an LDS Family History Centre:

Cradley - Film No 895367
Baptisms, burials 1785-1812,
Marriages, 1802-1812;
Baptisms, 1813-1836;
Marriages, 1813-1836;
Burials, 1813-1843.
Burials, 1843-1844;

Clent - Film No 1042161
Marriages, 1805-1812;
Baptisms, 1813-1877;
Marriages, 1813-1837;
Burials, 1813-1903;
Marriages, 1837-1938.

Alternatively if you cant get to one and no-one can do a look-up for you then you could always ask Worcestershire archives if they can email you copies of the 1815 Clent marriage and the 1816 Cranley burial, although I'm not sure what they'd charge.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Which Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 October 17 21:14 BST (UK) »
Hmmm, I’ve just checked the census and see that Caroline (baptised Cradley) is with the rest of the family in Cradley in 1841, and that in later census Benjamin also gives his PoB as Cradley. 

The NBI has a burial in Cradley on 31 Dec 1816 of a Sarah Hodgetts aged 20, which could potentially be Sarah Hill if Ann & Sarah were baptised as infants rather than babies and the 1820 marriage shows Benjamin as a bachelor in error  :-\

I think a viewing of the original Clent and Cradley registers is the only thing that may sort this one out  :-\

I've found the records for this Sarah Hodgetts, daughter of William Hodgetts and Joice Hill, who was baptised on 16 October 1796, was actually the sister of Benjamin Hodgetts who married Sarah Read/Hill and she married a Thomas Stringer on 8 May 1815 at St. Thomas, Dudley. She died on 31 December 1816.