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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 00:11 BST (UK) »
Yes it is her name after John Hanlon. She would be his mother in law. I'm pretty sure it's her buried in glasnevin. Hannah is also in the grave. Marias burial was organised by Anne Hanlon  her daughter. Hill street. Anne was married to John but didn't die until 1960 so herself is in a different grave. Unless it's a coincidence but the addresses all match 

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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 00:36 BST (UK) »
Her age matches the death cert as well, she may have died in Hanlon's house but was living in Glenville Place at the time.

Just our luck Christina Hennessy and Michael Murphy's marriage image isn't online.

None of this is getting any closer to Hugh Glynn, sorry, there are sites which give discriptions of old occupations, a stewart is given as managing property, purveyor of supplies, or attending passengers.

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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 07:05 BST (UK) »
I have this for Christina Hennessy in 1901

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Upper_Tyrone_Street/1329897/

Her father is married in 1911 so this looks like her mother in 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Grenville_Street/34614/

In Grenville Street - the death was Grenville Place  :-\

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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 07:14 BST (UK) »
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10910/5985234.pdf

This is a marriage - 1884 - of John Hennessy and Mary Byrne - father Patrick - of Upper Gloucester Place.

So it would seem that Christina Hennessy is the granddaughter if this is all the right family.
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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 09:11 BST (UK) »
I had seen that before but the name mary puzzled me...perhaps I need to find a birth record for her!!
Thank you so much!!

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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 09:55 BST (UK) »
Here is the church record of the Hennessy/Byrne marriage. It shows Mary Byrne's mother as Mary Doyle  :-\

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kjk/
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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 10:20 BST (UK) »
Think we need to get every thing laid out in one place, I'm flicking back and forth trying to make sense of every thing I'm sure other are as well.

Hugh Glynn a steward
His daughter Maria Glynn marries Patrick Byrnes in 1863
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-327-3-2-097
Need to establish how many children they had.

Anne we know married John Hanlon, think this is her as she has a son Edward on his birth 1898 mother is Byrne, father Car man.
1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Mountjoy/Kings_Avenue/1323085/
This would make her born 1875 so likely the Anne born in Luke St.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kjl/
Which rules out the Anna born in Drumcondra Road but also means there is two Patrick Byrne and Maria Glynn around. (Likely her name is Mary due to using Latin, but than Maria may also be transcribed as Mary believing her name is in Latin.)
Hanna married McKeever her death gives her age as 21 in 1895 which is giving her a birth year c 1874/73.
We don't have a birth for Hanna.
Can you show us where you found Garret, James and the possible Ellen
Is the James baptised Saggart, 1880 and
Ellen 1868 St. Agatha?

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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 10:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sinnan, Perfect synopsis!
This is Garret
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1872/2186089a.pdf

This is James  : https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02966/2086563.pdf

Fathers occupation also correct for both.
 Also have for an Ellena: churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/819539
0106267

I dont believe the Saggart connection rings true as the dates are a bit off........and no one in the family recalls a link to Saggart
I have at times thought maybe there are two Byrne/Glynn connections in Dublin in addition to the Saggart one, but I cant find evidence...  The Glynn connection never even came about until I discover Hannah McKeevers burial record, and worked backwards. As far as I was concerned Maria was Maria Flynn as on the Hanlon/Byre record........then I saw Hannah marriage record!

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Re: Occupation listed as Steward...possibilities???
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 11:21 BST (UK) »
They look good, I didn't pay enough attention to Patrick on the marriage, too caugh up with Hugh Glynn, Patrick being a carpenter should make finding the children's births easier.
If only they didn't mover around so much.