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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 08:51 BST (UK) »
I tried that, with wild card forename. Got no results. But could be my error.
Maybe they were married in Multy......

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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 08:53 BST (UK) »
Civil registration of Catholic marriages didn't start until 1864 so there won't be a marriage certificate. You need to look at church registers-
http://registers.nli.ie/
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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 08:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks. When did civil registration of births begin?
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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 08:59 BST (UK) »
Registration of births, deaths and Catholic marriages 1864 (from 1845 for non-Catholic marriages).
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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 15:10 BST (UK) »
You probably already have all this but it might help others trying to help you.
Lot of RIC men in the family.
Margaret with grand daughter Emily in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Ballinalack/Ballinalock/1783946/
by 1911 Emily is married to Richard Freeney RIC.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Ballinalack/Ballinalack_town/886642/
marriage 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10284/5743226.pdf
Emily/Ameila is the daughter of Maria Flynn and Martin Kennedy RIC
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02940/2077410.pdf
Martin and Maria in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Multyfarnham/Multyfarnham_Village/1784138/
Maria is 48 so born c 1852, which fits with the Delvin Baptism.

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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 16:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all that. I had most of it. But it took me two weeks or more to get it!

Also, Richard Feeney was in the station in Ballinalack in 1901 (R.F.). No wonder his eye fell on the postmistress's granddaughter. Small village. And now we know her grandfather had been in the same station (probably died in either 1897 or 1899).

The enigma is Maria, and now her sister Margaret. I think Maria was married in Longwood, Meath (Killyon) in 1873 (Jun 6). But why there?
Where was Margaret born, if not in Kells? I might try Delvin for her as well.

The other discovery has been other siblings, Edward (1852), but in Ballinalack, also Catherine (1856), Thomas (1860, maybe but mother's name was given as Mary), and James (1864).

The big discovery in this thread has been the discovery of the excellent records on Genealogy, which revealed John was a Constable.

I would like to follow up his RIC records, but I am hitting a blank wall with that. Any suggestions or directions?

If John Flynn wed in Athboy in 1849, he could have been assigned to Delvin, either before or after that, and then transferred to Ballinalack sometime after the birth of Maria and before that of Edward. But then, where was Margaret born?
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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 16:32 BST (UK) »
Oops. Edward was born in Delvin in 1852.  My bad. Gives a few years for Margaret's birth though. Given that history has recorded her as being born in 1864, maybe a rounded 1954 would be a good guess!
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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 16:50 BST (UK) »
One possibility:

Catherine is Margaret. In the original register, the previous baptism was a Cathr also. Could have been a sleepy priest?
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Re: A conundrum: What did John Flynnn work at?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 17:43 BST (UK) »
I think Maria was married in Longwood, Meath (Killyon) in 1873 (Jun 6). But why there?
Perhaps she was working there but often at that period no occupation would be listed for bride. Church register online-
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635226#page/3/mode/1up

Oops. Edward was born in Delvin in 1852.  My bad. Gives a few years for Margaret's birth though. Given that history has recorded her as being born in 1864, maybe a rounded 1954 would be a good guess!

It's possible that Margaret was born shortly before 1864 which is why it's important to thoroughly check church registers for baptisms, etc.
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