Griffith Thomas

[Commissioner]

I am trying trace more information on Griffith Thomas born 1794  baptised at Llandrillo Corwen
Father Humphrey Mother Jane. He had 3 children Robert born 1826, Mary born 1824 & Elizabeth born 1834 and mother was given as Margaret.  I cannot find their marriage in Wales but found a Griffith Thomas  & Margaret Evans marrying 1825 at St Botolph Aldgate, London, England.  I can only trace Griffith on the census 1871 at Cerrig Llwydion with his son Humphrey & his family and his death in June 1871 and I think Margaret died 1862. I have found a Griffith Thomas in 1861 living with a Mary Thomas b 1793 and grandson John Jones born 1856 I am in the mind to think Mary should read Margaret, any suggestions Thanks

[rosie99]

Hi

Welcome to rootschat

Is this Griffith & Humphrey in 1871 
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5PT-RKN

Humphrey & his family in 1861
RG09/4308 f43 p16

[rosie99]

Possibly Humphrey's baptism
Humphrey Thomas
17 September 1826
Llandrillo,    Merionethshire
Parents Griffith & Margaret

[rosie99]

He had 3 children Robert born 1826, Mary born 1824 & Elizabeth born 1834 and mother was given as Margaret. 

Where were these children baptised

[Commissioner]

Thank you Rosie99 the children were all baptised at Llangar parish of gwyddelwern and the address given was Cerrig Y Llwydion Cynwyd

[keyboard86]

Thank you Rosie99 the children were all baptised at Llangar parish of gwyddelwern and the address given was Cerrig Y Llwydion Cynwyd

HI, and welcome to Rootschat, Humphrey has mother as Margaret Evans father Griffith Thomas occ Labourer residence Cerrig Llwydion, Cynwyd 1826, so when was Robert's baptism?

Same residence:-

Mary 14th September 1828
Elizabeth 16th March 1834
Keyboard86

[Commissioner]

Humphrey son of Griffith was baptised at Llangar 1826.  Sorry it should have been Humphrey not Robert.

Is it possible that the person who took the 1841 & 1851 Census for  Gwyddelwern Cynwyd Fechan and Cynwyd-Fawr, Corwen, Merionethshire, put down the wrong surname as I found a Griffith Humphreys married to Margaret and a son Humphrey all living a Cerrig Llwydion

[keyboard86]

Humphrey son of Griffith was baptised at Llangar 1826.  Sorry it should have been Humphrey not Robert.

Is it possible that the person who took the 1841 & 1851 Census for  Gwyddelwern Cynwyd Fechan and Cynwyd-Fawr, Corwen, Merionethshire, put down the wrong surname as I found a Griffith Humphreys married to Margaret and a son Humphrey all living a Cerrig Llwydion

OK let's go with that, although the chances of an enumerator getting it wrong on two census returns is highly unlkely, was the 1851 the one with an Evan Thomas Humphreys b 1838?
Keyboard86

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Griffith Humphreys - didn't you say his father was called Humphrey? Might be one of those remnants of the patronymic naming convention used in Wales