William Webb

[tonymaxfield]

I am trying to get more detail on my 3x great grandfather, William Webb. I know that his son George was married in the Tabernacle at Wotton under Edge and on the marriage certificate William lives in Berkeley and is a blacksmith. His wife was Ann. There appear to be a lot of connections with Bristol and this part of Gloucestershire. Wotton under Edge, Dursley and Berkeley come up a number of times and George's son, Charles was born in Bristol and was a sailor at one time. I have a picture of this. George's wife, Elizabeth Packer Leyshon lived in Wotton under Edge.
These are my certainties.
I can find no more mention of William as a blacksmith and this hinders searching in the census. Surely a blacksmith in a small village in Gloucestershire would be mentioned somewhere.
Also George appears to have been born in Abingdon in 1831 to Ann and William Webb which seems out of kilter with the story. A William and Ann appear in the 1881 census in Abingdon. William as a bricklayer.
Can anyone help? Could I find out more about the blacksmith and the sailor? It seems to be one of those areas of the family tree where there is so much information it is hard to filter out the right bits!
All suggestions/ help gratefully received.

Tony Maxfield

[Ladyhawk]

I am trying to get more detail on my 3x great grandfather, William Webb.

I know that his son George was married in the Tabernacle at Wotton under Edge and on the marriage certificate William lives in Berkeley and is a blacksmith. His wife was Ann.

I can find no more mention of William as a blacksmith and this hinders searching in the census. Surely a blacksmith in a small village in Gloucestershire would be mentioned somewhere.

Also George appears to have been born in Abingdon in 1831 to Ann and William Webb which seems out of kilter with the story. A William and Ann appear in the 1881 census in Abingdon. William as a bricklayer.

Do you have George on 1841/1851 census before his marriage to Elizabeth?
If so, to help others looking could you give details please.

What was George's occupation?

Who witnessed his marriage to Elizabeth?

[lizdb]

I am trying to get more detail on my 3x great grandfather, William Webb. I know that his son George was married in the Tabernacle at Wotton under Edge and on the marriage certificate William lives in Berkeley and is a blacksmith. His wife was Ann.

Marriage certs only give fathers name and occupation - not fathers abode or mother name. 
How did you find out Ann's name?

Or - is the marriage cert you refer to that of William and Ann, not of George the son?

[trish1120]

George may have been telling porkies on his M/C.

GEORGE Webb Christened 13 March 1831, Abingdon, Berkshire, Mother ANN Webb

Is this the Family in 1871 in London?
George Webb   40 born Abingdon, Berkshire
Elizabeth Webb   40 born Wotton Under Edge, Gloucestershire
George Webb   11 born Bristol
Charles Webb   8
Joseph J Webb   6
Alfred E Webb   10 Months

[Ladyhawk]

Is this the Family in 1871 in London?

George Webb   40 born Abingdon, Berkshire
Elizabeth Webb   40 born Wotton Under Edge, Gloucestershire
George Webb   11 born Bristol
Charles Webb   8
Joseph J Webb   6
Alfred E Webb   10 Months

Looks as if you have the correct family from GRO indexes showing mmn

WEBB, GEORGE    mmn   LEYSHON    
1860  S Quarter in BRISTOL  Volume 06A  Page 32   

WEBB, ALFRED  EDWARD  mmn   LEYSHON     
1870  S Quarter in HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 596   

[trish1120]

1861 Census
George Webb, 30, born Abingdon, Buckinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Webb, 30, born Wottenandridge, Gloucestershire, England
George Webb, 8mths


Posted as indexed on Anc.

[Ladyhawk]

1851 Visitor, George Webb 20 single born Abingdon occ Plumber & Glazier Journeyman
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG85-4TP

[tonymaxfield]

Trish - this census is all true, but William is not mentioned there. He's mentioned in one with Ann in 1881.
Lizdb- the marriage certificate is between George and Elizabeth Packer Leyshon (not sure why the Packer is there, by the way!). Ann's name came from the baptism at St. Nicholas, Abingdon and I think a census.
Lady hawk - George was a painter, sign writer, plumber, glazier! Jack of all trades!
The witnesses were William Leyshon from Wotton under Edge, father in law and also a painter and glazier. The second witness was Ann Covington.
Hope this helps. Thanks for all replying so quickly. Sorry I don't know how to reply individually or if you can.

Tony😀

[tonymaxfield]

Tried to post a photo of the 1841 census, but seems not to have worked. It shows William and Ann Webb in Wotton under edge with children, Jane 12, George 10, Elizabeth 8, Henry 6, Thomas 4 and Mary 2 with Ann Smith 19-23 yrs old. All are said to have been born in Gloucestershire, but as one of you wisely said earlier they might have lied! I guess they couldn't read and this would be easier to say.
What puzzles me is why William and Ann had George in Abingdon when they are clearly rooted in Gloucestershire!
I hope I have not posted this multiple times.
Puzzled!

Tony 😀