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PLEASE can someone help me? I'm desperate.
« on: Monday 28 August 17 20:57 BST (UK) »
Been trying to find the marriage details of my paternal great grandparents for years. I'm beginning to lose the will to live, tbh. I was born in 1967 in Barton,Manchester. [ It says Lisa Baker on my birth certificate, not Lisa O'Brien.] My dad was 64 when I was born, and my mum 42. My dad, Laurence O'Brien was born in Salford in 1903. His parents were Michael and Phoebe O'Brien. Michael was born on 28 January 1869 in Money, Kings County, Ireland. He and his younger brother John are listed in the 1891 Census as living in Worsley, near Salford. Michael was 21 and his brother was 19. Both were farm labourers. I know that Michael was one of 5 children born to Patrick Brien and Anne Dunne. Anne was from Money. Patrick died in April 1879 in Money/Munny. Anne died in 1912 or 1913 in Derrinboy, Kings County. That's the background. I have searched for years now and I can absolutely find no trace of a marriage between Patrick Brien/O'Brien and Anne Dunne in that part of Ireland. Is there something i'm missing or doing wrong? Please, if there is any help you can give me at all, or even if anyone is able to find their marriage details, I would be eternally grateful. Many thanks. Kind regards, Lisa O'Brien.
O`Brien and  Dunne.

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« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 August 17 21:21 BST (UK) »
Civil registration of Catholic marriages began in 1864 so if they married in a Catholic ceremony before that date there will be no civil marriage record and you need to search for church register.

Lots of Catholic Parish Registers online (free)- http://registers.nli.ie/
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 August 17 21:37 BST (UK) »
Note on the birth's of Patrick's children he is described as a pensioner
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03453/2267816.pdf

sounds like he had a military background.

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 August 17 21:51 BST (UK) »
There are 3 service records on Findmypast for a Patrick Brien born circa 1824 Kilbride,Tullamore,Kings
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kmh/

please note the above is a pay site and is not free to join ,it is an old link i had to a free weekend they gave some months back.


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 August 17 22:11 BST (UK) »
A POSSIBLE


Marriage of ANNE DUNNE
in 1864
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Dublin North
Returns Year   1864
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   7
Returns Page No   582

 Marriage of PATRICK OBRIEN
in 1864
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Dublin North
Returns Year   1864
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   7
Returns Page No   582

I KNOW it is wrong county....but if he was in Police he can not serve in a county where he or his wife have kin.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 08:15 BST (UK) »
Sep 7th 1863 Patrick to Pat Brien and Anne Dunne
right hand page
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635061#page/200/mode/1up

a slow trawl back through the baptisms for more children may lead to an approximate date for their marriage

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 21:03 BST (UK) »
Only just reading all these messages now as I didn't know about them. Thank you for all your trouble.
O`Brien and  Dunne.