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Alfred John Gates
« on: Tuesday 29 August 17 15:49 BST (UK) »
I looking for a marriage record or Information on this gentleman. Shown in the 1881 census in Hampshire with a birth date of 1865. He appears in the 1911 census married to Elizabeth Martha Smith nee Cheverall. Its possible that she has been previously married.Any information greatly appreciated!

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Re: Alfred John Gates
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 15:49 BST (UK) »
How long do they claim to have been married by 1911, and where are they in that census?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alfred John Gates
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 15:53 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Philldw on Tuesday 29 August 17 15:49 BST (UK)
I looking for a marriage record or Information on this gentleman. Shown in the 1881 census in Hampshire with a birth date of 1865.

More detail for those looking: his birthplace is stated as Portsmouth. 

Likely birth reg as Alfred John Gates, Dec qtr 1865 Portsea Island.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alfred John Gates
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 15:56 BST (UK) »
Marriages Sep qtr 1887 
CHIVERALLS    Elizabeth Martha       
SMITH    William John       
Weymouth    5a   540
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Re: Alfred John Gates
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 15:57 BST (UK) »
Children of Alfred & Elizabeth:

Alice Beatrice Gates mmn Chiverall, Sep qtr 1903 Havant
Emily Louisa Gates mmn Chiverall, Mar qtr 1905 Havant
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alfred John Gates
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 16:00 BST (UK) »
Quote from: rosie99 on Tuesday 29 August 17 15:56 BST (UK)
Marriages Sep qtr 1887 
CHIVERALLS    Elizabeth Martha       
SMITH    William John       
Weymouth    5a   540

Elizabeth Smith is in Havant in 1901 as a married laundress, 36 b Weymouth, no husband with her, but 4 children William 13, Rosina 8, Fanny 6 and Marie Grace 5.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alfred John Gates
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 16:03 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Philldw on Tuesday 29 August 17 15:49 BST (UK)
Its possible that she has been previously married.Any information greatly appreciated!

SMITH, WILLIAM  JOHN     mmn CHEVERALLS     
1888  March Quarter
WEYMOUTH RD Volume 05A  Page 324

SMITH, ALBERT  GEORGE     mmn CHIVERALLS     
1890  Sept Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 410



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Re: Alfred John Gates
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 16:06 BST (UK) »
SMITH, ROSINA  ALICE     mmn CHIVERALLS     
1893  March Quarter
WEYMOUTH  Volume 05A  Page 302

SMITH, ELIZABETH  FANNY     mmn CHIVERALLS     
1895  March Quarter
PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 469

SMITH, MARIE  GRACE     mmn CHIVERALLS     
1896  March Quarter
HAVANT  Volume 02B  Page 405


 
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Re: Alfred John Gates
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 August 17 16:15 BST (UK) »
Gone back and looked at 1911 census according to that they had been married for 9 years (1892)
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