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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #36 on: Friday 08 September 17 12:22 BST (UK) »
The actual 1914 Star roll for the Royal Field Artillery
69378 Gunner H Williams
dis-embarkation 19-8-14
Transf'd ASC 19-1-18
Star retd Forfeits Deserted 30-6-19

Noted also on the RFA British/Victory medal rolls
All his medals were forfeited.

Sheffield Daily Telegraph, 1 February 1915
Reported from the Base, under date 7th December, 1914
Wounded
Williams (69378) Gnr. H., R.F.A.

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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #37 on: Friday 08 September 17 12:31 BST (UK) »
He appears on electoral registers in Newcastle
i.e. 1930
sub division of Lambton
Williams, Harold Robert, Lambton road, New Lambton, miner
and
Williams, Mary, Lambton road, New Lambton, home duties

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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #38 on: Friday 08 September 17 12:43 BST (UK) »
I have not searched 39 Register for Melba . All my records for her marriage , life in Canada etc agree with your findings

It's interesting that she is not redacted on the 1939 Register (as we can see from the free index!) since she was born in 1924, and apparently later went to Canada. Has someone had her record opened?
No indication of a name change after marriage apparently.

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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #39 on: Friday 08 September 17 12:51 BST (UK) »
So, to date, all early sightings have him as Harold Williams - WW1, marriage
Pre WW2 electoral registers have him as Harold Robert Williams
Switches his names around!

Father on marriage is Robert Williams, not Robert Harold
and the possible father, Robert Williams, married Gladys Jenkins in 1917. And presumably died before 1939.


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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #40 on: Friday 08 September 17 15:06 BST (UK) »
Brothers death:
2868/1936 THOMAS William parents JOHN and AVINA NEWCASTLE

Died in an accident in Lambton Road
Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners' Advocate, 30 January 1936
"Cyclist Killed"
Identified by brother in law RT Williams
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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #41 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:05 BST (UK) »
details of the 2 Hugh Williams' birth certificates you have obtained so that they can be eliminated.
Josey if I told you I had 2 certs for Hugh Williams I was delusional , I have no concrete information for Hugh
Sorry, Mary, you never said that; I misread the first post  :-[

Think I need a wet towel around my head  ;D
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #42 on: Friday 08 September 17 19:40 BST (UK) »
Robert junior and his wife Mary came to Australia in 1925/1926 , and I'm pretty sure that the last address in Wales for them was Caerau , Maesteg .

On the Sophocles, departing London, 29th January 1926, bound for Australia
Williams Mrs Mary, H Wife, 29
Williams Avrina, 4
(Avrina transcribed Louisa on ancestry, and Adrina on FindMyPast)

Address ? 27 Dampraig Ter (probably nothing like it!)
Nr Porth Glam

Birth
June 1921 Bridgend 11a 2020
Williams, Avrina M.
mother Thomas

From her marriage in Australia, that M is for Margaret

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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #43 on: Friday 08 September 17 19:47 BST (UK) »
Possibility on the Orama, departing London 7 March 1925, bound for Australia
Mr. R. Williams, 46 Gelli St., Caerau, Bridgend, Glam.
occupation Miner, age 30


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Re: Mother's surname for Robert Harold Williams junior b1894 Cardiff area
« Reply #44 on: Friday 08 September 17 19:55 BST (UK) »
Robert junior and his wife Mary came to Australia in 1925/1926 , and I'm pretty sure that the last address in Wales for them was Caerau , Maesteg .

On the Sophocles, departing London, 29th January 1926, bound for Australia
Williams Mrs Mary, H Wife, 29
Williams Avrina, 4
(Avrina transcribed Louisa on ancestry, and Adrina on FindMyPast)

Address ? 27 Dampraig Ter (probably nothing like it!)
Nr Porth Glam

Birth
June 1921 Bridgend 11a 2020
Williams, Avrina M.
mother Thomas

From her marriage in Australia, that M is for Margaret

If it helps..Looks like Danygraig to me there is one near Porth. (Trebanog area)
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland