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shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« on: Monday 18 September 17 06:41 BST (UK) »
My grandfather Arthur James Denney, was in Lincoln with his wife and young family in 1911 working as a machine erector in a woodworks GER (Census). I have ascertained what that job was from the Chairman of the Great Eastern railway, but he maintains that in 'woodworks' Grandad would not have been working in the railway despite being a highly qualified artisan.

So where might he have worked in Lincoln between about 1909-10 and about 1913-14? He was in London prior to those dates - married in 1908 in St Luke's Millwall, in Rosyth during the first war and then back in London sometime after 1919.
I know that Lincoln was a successful engineering place but need to know more about what industires might have employed a shipwright/carpenter.
Thanks for any help

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Re: shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 September 17 08:12 BST (UK) »
Is there a reason you jumped from "machine erector in a woodworks GER" to shipwright/carpenter?

A machine erector installs, dismantles, or moves machinery and heavy equipment - so, the engineering sounds about right?

I would have thought that the carriages on the railway would have been wooden and/or wooden-framed?
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Re: shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 September 17 08:52 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat
From The Dictionary of Occupational Terms.
Shipwright; One of a gang of skilled men who lay down the keel blocks, keeps in proper form each part of the steel framework of a ship, directs the frame and beam erectors, superintends the laying of launchways and launching; lays the decks and generally fits out the ship.

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Re: shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 September 17 10:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Kiwi Carol, and welcome to RootsChat :)

I'd be surprised to find a shipwright in the city of Lincoln, it's well inland - and that wasn't Arthur's occupation in 1911, so where have you seen this information?

Nor did he work for GER - one of his lodgers did.  And that company was absorbed into the London & North Eastern Railway in 1923.

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Re: shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 September 17 11:18 BST (UK) »
Frame Maker (agricultural machines); machine erector, machine frame maker, machine maker; a carpenter who builds framework and undercarriages of threshing machines, straw elevators, and other agricultural machines, and fits the parts together. "A Dictionary of Occupational terms"
If this is him in the 1901 census, Arthur F Denny stepson with Sidney Bond, then he is a "Joiner, School & Church fitter". RG13; Piece: 1298; Folio: 131; Page: 20
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Re: shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 September 17 11:51 BST (UK) »
He probably worked at the "Sheaf Wood Works" Anchor Street, Lincoln, which you can see on the map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/Map/497172/370548/12/100670
Change the zoom level.
The Sheaf Wood Works and the Sheaf Iron Works, were owned by Ruston, Proctor, & Co. Limited. agricultural and general engineers.
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Re: shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 September 17 12:01 BST (UK) »
Robey and Co. in Lincoln were producing machinery at that time which might need erecting on the purchasers premises by one of their employees.

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Re: shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 September 17 14:26 BST (UK) »
In the 1911 census he gives his employment as Machine Erector, Engineers Wood Works. In the 1911 census for Lincoln there are 58 men giving their occupation as "Thre(a)shing Machine Erector"
The thrashing machine erecting shops were parallel to the Sheaf Wood Works building
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Re: shipwright/carpenter - which company in Lincoln?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 September 17 14:54 BST (UK) »
Good one Stan, it just shows the benefit of actually reading and posting exactly what is there,
The    "Engineers wood works" grammatically implies the woodworking department of an engineering firm that also has other departments.

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