Breen and Dowling families of Wexford

[notaninch]

Eliza is most likely the daughter of Edward Dowling and Eliza Shudall who may have been from the Rathangan area of Co Wexford....so you can look to see if she is or not.

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0592

I am fairly confident Eliza is the daughter of Edward Dowling and Eliza Shudall. When you add the other evidence to that she attends her grandchild's birth as Eliza Breen formerly Dowling - surely this is corroborative proof. Shudall is not a common name

[hallmark]

Eliza is most likely the daughter of Edward Dowling and Eliza Shudall who may have been from the Rathangan area of Co Wexford....so you can look to see if she is or not.

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0592

I am fairly confident Eliza is the daughter of Edward Dowling and Eliza Shudall. When you add the other evidence to that she attends her grandchild's birth as Eliza Breen formerly Dowling - surely this is corroborative proof. Shudall is not a common name

OK

[notaninch]

Thanks for your help Hallmark. The needle in the haystack is tackling who Patrick Breen's parents are and who are Edward Dowling's parents are. There are simply too many with same names in same area who are contemporaries and with such a scarcity of records not sure I want to go there. I think Eliza Shudall may be the daughter of Francis which might help to explain the grandson being named Francis John. Cheers for now Hallmark

[hallmark]

Marriage of PATRICK BREEN
in 1873
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Wexford
Returns Year   1873
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   14
Returns Page No   435

will get father's name and townland/address

[notaninch]

great much appreciated

[berni2u]

I would also like to know if you found out any information on the parents of Patrick Breen and Eliza Dowling from wexford.  They are my great-great grandparents.  Their son Francis Breen married Elizabeth Lumley (father Capt. Joseph Lumley of Waterford) and their eldest daughter, Letitia Breen was my grandmother.

[Wexflyer]

The 1874 (not 1873) marriage registration for Patrick Breen and Elizabeth Dowling is available online. Why didn't the OP simply look?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11247/8125167.pdf
This completely disproves the leading theory previously put forward here!

Patrick was an organist (already known from profession on later census materials), aged 35. His father was John Breen, a cattle dealer, who was already dead.
Elizabeth was a shopkeeper, aged 26, daughter of Raymond Dowling, a customs officer.

[Wexflyer]

Name:    Elizabeth Frances Dowling    
Date of Birth:    05-Nov-1848
Date of Baptism:    07-Nov-1848
Address:    Not Recorded    
Parish/District:    Wexford
County    Co. Wexford
Denomination:    Roman Catholic
Father:    Raymond Dowling    
Mother:    Mary Holbrook      
Sponsor 1 /Informant 1:    William Robinson
Sponsor 2 /Informant 2:    Frances Birmingham

The Holbrooks were a long-established family of hairdressers in Wexford.

[Wexflyer]

Elizabeth had at least three siblings
Mary Anne, born 20/9/1839
John, 13/6/1844
Raymond, 13/6/1844 (Twins).

Not that the godfather for Raymond (born 13/6/1844) is also Raymond Dowling - grandfather?

I suspect the marriage of Raymond Dowling and Mary Holbrook is recorded in the Wexford parish registers - perhaps someone with a direct connection might care to look.