Watkins census

[Suzy W]

Great, so I am not going nuts

[keyboard86]

Hi could you please tell me the who Sidney Watkins married and when?

EDIT Did he marry a Susannah Danson, and they had a daugher Louisa Marion b March qtr 1861, if so in the household of Sidney in 1851 is an A M M Watkins aged 1 b St James, now it gets interesting, their is a birth registration of an Alice Maude Mary Mellish March qtr 1849 St James, Westminster mmn Appleton, but also a baptism of an Alice Maude Mary Watkins born 6th December 1849 baptism 21st December 1849 St James, Westminster Mother Eliza Watkins?
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Also in 1911 an Alice Maude Mary Watkins 61 b Kensington has a Louisa M Watkins 50 b Camberwell shown as Cousin, staying with her?
They are in South Benfleet, Essex.

The "Other* Alice Maude Mary (Mellish) married a William Cox Dec qtr 1880 Winchester.

[Suzy W]

Yes that is right Susannah Dawson. married Jan 1850
So is the Alice born 1849 her?  Mother Eliza. 
Yet here she is popping up in 1911,
Louisa M Watkins was the daughter to Samuel and Susannah.
Just wondering if Alice was born out of wedlock?
I have Elizabeth Watkins daughter of John and Martha, born 1826, and nothing more on her.  So quite possible she had Alice.  What good finding.

Suzy W

[keyboard86]

Hi again, Alice Maude Mary Watkins of Glendale, 2, Meadow Road, Hadleigh, Essex Spinster died 4th April 1934, Probate London 26th June to Samuel Watkins Field occ Civil Servant & William Frederick Grimwood occ Solicitor's Managing Clerk Effects £3803 0s 8d

If I am correct Samuel Watkins Field was the son of Joseph Field who married Mary Ann Watkins ( The daughter of Sidney Samuel John Watkins) 3rd September 1889, St Giles, Camberwell

In 1881 census, Alice 31 occ Independent b St James is shown as Niece to a Robert Adams b Norfolk and wife Ann  b Epsom in Epsom
Census Ref RG11/762/23/40 and 1891 with Robert Adams 57 Widower b Norfolk has in household an Alice M M Watkins b St James, again in Epsom
Census Ref RG12/546/129/10

? Where did Alice M M get her money from?
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[Suzy W]

Thanks Keyboard quite a bit to take in there.
I know My John Watkins brother in-laws owned a printing company, so not too sure about Alice Watkins and her wealth, most interesting.
I have corrected Alice and put her where she should belong, she would be the daughter of Elizabeth/Eliza and not Samuel.
One more inch closer.
Thanks

[keyboard86]

OK. a little more for you:-

1901 census:-

Robert Adams 67 Widower occ Carpenter b Wormegay, Norfolk
Eliza Wattrins ( Watkins) 76 Widower/Boarder occ Living on own means b Dulwich
Alice Wattrins 51 ? Niece b Piccadilly, London
Residing at Station Estate, Pitsea, Billericay, Essex
Census Ref RG13/1668/19/17

Eliza Watkins of Albury-Cottage, Pitsea, Essex Spinster died 16th March 1904, Probate London 29th March to Alice Maude Mary Watkins Spinster Effects £428 6s 9d

Louisa Marion Watkins of 107, Ealing Road, Wembley, Middlesex died 17th August 1945, Probate Llandudno 19th October to Joseph Field occ Chartered Surveyor and Samuel Watkins Field occ Civil Servant Effects £3894 12s 1d

In 1939 I believe she was living with Mary Ann Field ( nee Watkins) at this address.
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[KGarrad]

Louisa Marion Watkins of 107, Ealing Road, Wembley, Middlesex died 17th August 1945, Probate Llandudno 19th October to Joseph Field occ Chartered Surveyor and Samuel Watkins Field occ Civil Servant Effects £3894 12s 1d

The Principal Probate Registry moved out of London during WW2, to Llandudno

[Suzy W]

Thank you so much.

I got talking to another relation and see thinks the John who married Typhena was the son of William Watkins and Ann Permenter.  And William being the older brother of our John. 

No idea who Robert Adams was, could he of been the father of Alice Watkins?  But that would've made him 16   And relations with a much older women.

[keyboard86]

Hi again, a definite link with Robert Adams:-

Robert Adams of Claremont, Church Road, South Benfleet, Essex died 28th August 1909, Probate London 15th September to Alice Maud Mary Watkins Spinster Effects £1927 10s 7d
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