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Re: William Frederick Jones
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 September 17 08:44 BST (UK) »
Many Thanks Folks! Annette7 can you clarify please? " Alice Esther Wheeler would appear to be the daughter of Sarah Ann Wheeler bc 1864 (daughter of William and  Esther) If Sarah Ann Wheeler was her mother how is she the daughter of William and Esther?? I am a bit confused..my wife says its my age! Thank you David

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 September 17 08:52 BST (UK) »
Sarah Ann Wheeler is the daughter of William and Esther.

So Alice Esther Wheeler is the granddaughter of William and Esther.

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 September 17 09:01 BST (UK) »
We apparently cannot quote the 1911 census, but William and Esther have been married a long time.

Bother, they did not reach 60 years:

William Wheeler died age 89 in Eton district in 1916
Esther Wheeler died age 89 in Eton district in 1911

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Re: William Frederick Jones
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 September 17 09:34 BST (UK) »
Should that be William Jones not William Wheeler? Thank You david


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Re: William Frederick Jones
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 September 17 10:09 BST (UK) »
Just looking at William Wheeler and Esther his wife, both born in the 1820's and died in the 1910's.

Sarah Ann Wheeler is shown as 8 in 1871 census, so born 1862/1863.
This might be her birth from GRO
Sarah Ann Wheeler, mmn Hawkins, December quarter 1862 in Cookham
(as she has a sister Alice age 12 in 1871, so fits with this birth
Alice Wheeler mmn Hawkins , June quarter 1858 in Hartley Witney)

William and Esther appear on the 1851 census as married, (with his parents and siblings) so possibly this:
Marriages December quarter 1850 
Esther Hawkins        Hartley Wintney
William Wheeler        Hartley Witney

so they did make 60 years.

David:
Have you started to draw a rough family tree so that you can see all the connections?
We do sometimes leap around, and refer using either maiden or married names for women, so it can get very confusing.

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Re: William Frederick Jones
« Reply #14 on: Monday 25 September 17 13:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Chempat, yes I have done a rough family tree. This what I think so far from the sterling work done by contributers. Sarah Ann Wheeler had an illegitimate daughter Alice Esther Wheeler.This lady married William jones in 1911.Prior to this marriage she had 3 illiegitimate children and maybe William was the father. Her mother Sarah Ann Wheeler married Walter Slaymaker in 1888 but they had no children between them. William Frederick Jones is the son of William Jones and Alice Esther.
Your last post seems to suggest something different with Sarah Ann Wheeler?? Thank You David.

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Re: William Frederick Jones
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25 September 17 16:54 BST (UK) »
Siblings for Edith May Jennings

Elizabeth J July 1913
Bessie I      Sept 1917
William G  June 1919
And twins
Phyllis E      Sept 1921 index 5c 7
Beatrice M  Sept 1921 index 5c 8
All Stratton
MMN Dingle

Probable death
Phyllis Evelyn Strange (marriage 1943)
B 17-7-21
D 1986 Swindon

Parents George & Bessie with children in Bude-Stratton in 1939